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Subject: Re: Apie istoriją ir pagalba ir apie Baranausko


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Kernius
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Date Posted: 12/14/02 13:05:40
In reply to: Kernius 's message, "Re: Apie istoriją ir pagalba ir apie Baranausko" on 12/14/02 10:27:34

Vikingai,noreciau galutinaui padeti taska del getu zvilterk i lietuvos Statutu svetaine ten tituliniame lape paminetos tautos siulau idemiau zvigtereti i irasa Sama:gitie,zodije gitie antroji raide t.y. balse i istikruju yra runa e ant jos nera taskelio ir virsutinieje daly yra nezymus bruksnys i kaire o apatineje daly yra bruksnelis i desine taip yra rasoma runa-e-ir gittie skaitoma getie t.y. zemaiciai ir yra getai.

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vikingas
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Date Posted: 12/14/02 23:47:55

As dar nueisiui i British Library paziuresiu mikrofilmus, o gal net ir pati originala. Tada ir nuimsime taska (arba padesime).

Is mano naujo archyvo nr. 2 1600 metu medziaga:

In SAMOGITIA (which in their language means Low-land) the people are tall and of excellent stature, but rude and barbarous in their manner and behaviour, using modest and homely food. The Russians call this province Samotz-kasembla. There are no fair buildings here at all, but their houses are like sheds or poor cottages only, made of wood, and covered with straw or reed. From the bottom upwards, their buildings gradually become smaller and smaller, like the keel of a ship, {not in 1598D{or a great helmet}not in 1598D}. In the top it has one window, letting light in from above, under which there is the hearth or chimney where they cook their food. In that house they hide themselves, their wives, children, servants, maids, sheep, cattle, corn and furniture altogether.


10. Sichardus {not in 1598D{in his history of Germany}not in 1598D} writes that the people of Samogitia have descended from the Saxons, and therefore ought to be subject to the kingdom of Polonia, yet, {not in 1598D{although the Saxons deny it to be a part of their jurisdiction, they confirm it to}not in 1598D} belong to the precinct of Saxony.

Ir tau turetu buti idomu :

VIVIVUTO or, as it is called by some, VIDINITUS, king of Borussia, in the year of Christ 573, when he was 116 years old, before he cast himself into a fire together with his brother as a sacrifice to his Gods, divided his possessions to his sons as follows. He had, as is reported, 12 sons. The first was LITHPO, or as others called him LITALAN, to whom he gave Lithuania the Lower, and made him king and sovereign of the rest, but he was rejected by his brothers because of his murder of CRIBE, a Bishop of them by that name.


11. Among the other eleven he divided the country of Spruse. Of these the first <son>, called ZAMO, obtained that region which after him to this day is called Zambia (Samland) which has on its West and North the salt sea, on the East lake Curisch-haff (Curonensis lacus) and the river Deme, and on the South the river Pregel. It is an accepted view among them that he lived on mount GALTAGARB. The second <son> SUDO got as his portion that part of the country where you now find Oletzo, Stradaun, Lick, part of the precincts or liberties of Iohanisburg, Letzen, Angerburg and Insterburg.


Taig Sambiai (Prusijos) ir Zemaiciai ta pati tauta! Visada tokie ir buvo. Jeigu paziuresi tu laiku zemelapius nustebsi
rades panasius vietovardzius abiejuose krastuose.
Mane labiausiai nustebino Kurse Nerunga prie Rugijos (Riugeno).
Ta medziaga archyve nr. 3 paskelbsiu.

O zemaiciai >< sarmatai - getai > derinys gana tiketinas.

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Kernius
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Date Posted: 12/15/02 18:47:59

Vikingai,kad zemaiciai buvo sarmatai sito irodineti tikriausiai nereikia nes apie tai visi senieji istorijos autoriai raso,o sarmatai tai ugriu-finai,sarmatai tai sar+matai tai zmogus ziurintis primerktom akim.

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