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Date Posted: 20:12:01 09/25/04 Sat
Author: Rabbi Stanley
Subject: Re: The Rapture
In reply to: Daniel 's message, "Re: The Rapture" on 05:51:32 09/22/04 Wed

Tonight I went to a service and it looked very Messianic. I thought I was going to feel right at home. I met the Pastor and a few of his people and they seemed very pleasant. They opened the meeting with the blowing of the shofar (rams horn) and I thought, "Now this I like". Then I felt the spirit of the Devil enter and I realized I was in the wrong house. They started whooping and a hollering falling down all over the place, laughing and screaming Hallelujah. Now you may say, "hey what's wrong with that.... sounds like a spirit filled congregation". Oh it was spirit filled all right, but it wasn't the right Spirit. My wife had never been to a "Church" like this before, it was a real eye opener for her. She kept trying to pray but she was having a hard time trying to do so. You could see it all over her face. Then she'd try to participate in other ways but she was all disjointed and looking very confused, at one point asking me what was wrong. These folks were saying Hallelujah like it was a cuss word and they were laughing like screeching demons. It was an all out "Satan on Parade". I'd seen that type of behavior many times before but this is what was so incredibly different� it was all masked in Messianic Judaism! I gotta tell ya, it freaked me out. I thought Messianic Judaism was virtually untouchable. I learned differently tonight. And I saw a new angle that the Devil is going to try. Here's what I think� we know that not long after the First Church got started that the Enemy got his fingers into it. He started corrupting it with Paganism, starting with Christmas and Easter and throwing in some Gnosticism to boot. 2,000 years later it is almost unrecognizable. Then came the Messianic Movement, reaching back for those roots of yesteryear and having great progress. I think Lucifer is aware of how Messianic Judaism can be detrimental to his welfare. So, he's trying an old recipe that has worked before, but this time trying to work in "new paganism". This group tonight, must've been 50 people or so, had worked in all of Benny Hinn�s lies mixed with Copland and the �School of Prophets�. I don�t think there was a Jew in the place. He slammed Shabbat, basically said the Jews were nothing and seemed to even poke fun at my wearing a Yarmulke calling it a �pope hat�. The strangest thing I had seen there was that all the worship team was facing backwards, with their backs to the congregation facing forward so we couldn�t see their faces. I gave a phone call to my folks afterward and told them about the evening. I thought, �Well this will be a new one to them�. It wasn�t. They had recently been to a service in another State that was just like this one. Shrouded in Messianic Judaism and a forced sense of revival. My folks brought up the point of how difficult it�s going to be to try to show the Church how to keep the Feasts of the L-rd when this type of thing is going on. How right that is. We gotta pray, Saints, that the Devil doesn�t get his foot into the door of the Messianic Movement. He tore apart the First Church, let�s not let him do it again.
At the end of the meeting a man walked over to me and said very soberly, �I�m glad you didn�t wear earrings, I just thought G-d wanted me to tell you that�. This man was, in my opinion, possessed. I�ve never worn earrings and never wanted to. The L-rd spoke to my heart and said, �This is the spirit of Perversion�. Perversion doesn�t always mean sexually, it means �backwards�. One look at their worship team, with their backs towards us explains it perfectly.
Rabbi Stanley

>Ahhh! I never really noticed the MEANING of the
>Deuteronomy text until like...RIGHT NOW. Those are
>DEFINATELY words to chew on, which this evening I will
>do!
>
>Also, I knew about the Apostolic lives, how that they
>were killed (except John, though that is even
>contended with)...Foxe's Book of Martyrs also deals
>with the persecution of the Post Apostolic Age of the
>Church; and what reading THAT is!
>
>As for MY life, well, it isn't by ANY means Apostolic
>Persecuted, yet, hehe, I'm bombarded every single day!
>lol Though it's all good, 'cause BEFORE THE LORD I
>would rather HAVE people hate me than love me all the
>time! My own mom and I are at odds over the Tronoto
>Blessing/WOF as her church, largest Charismatic one in
>my city, is into that garbage...opps...EVERY SINGLE
>PENTECOSTAL/CHARISMTIC Church in my city is into some
>form of junk (Alpha; Purpose, etc etc)... so yeah, me
>(a conservative Pentecostal) and them "don't get
>along....but at least the lost are being reached!
>Amen!
>
>Now, the "Name it and Claim it/WOF" Movement DOES like
>the pre trib rapture.... I WAS WOF and we taught all
>of that! (Though we must also make room for some
>Fundamentalist Baptists as they also hold this
>view...not all, but the majority)
>
>You made an interesting point from the Scriptures,
>that we don't go THROUGH His wrath but will be saved
>IN it.... never saw it as such, and that is something
>I will look at also.
>
>You see, and this from a former WOF proponent, most
>who believe in these doctrines are AFRAID to change
>them because they were taught that the doctrines held
>to are TOTALLY of God and that TO change is to
>BACKSLIDE almost; I'm not exaggerating....
>
>Many pre trib people believe that those who HEARD the
>Gospel before the rapture will NOT have a second
>chance AFTER the rapture..... so if they let the pre
>trib doctrine go then they might be lost eternally....
>this doctrine is held by MOST, and again, Hagee is the
>main propagator, and most have swallowed it.
>
>So, when dealing with pre tribbers, always keep in
>mind that if they get defensive it's 'cause they are,
>deep deep down, scared of "losing God".... and who
>wants to lose Jesus?
>
>I, however, am far past the stage where I believe any
>of that anylonger; my Faith is not in Copeland or any
>of that croud, but in Jesus Christ.....
>
>Can't wait for the prophecy teaching (hint hint)

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