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Jake
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Date Posted: 20:07:30 06/09/03 Mon
In reply to:
Dena
's message, "Re: Fansubs" on 16:55:08 06/09/03 Mon
>I'm greatly amused by the hullaballoo about the ANN
>articles. They aren't saying anything we haven't
>already known for years.
>
>There's no except about it; fansubs ARE illegal, full
>stop.
Right. It's not so much a case of providing new information. They're just bringing an old and unresolved debate back into the spotlight. Now was a good time to do so because of the increasing popularity of BitTorrent and its potential uses in limiting fansub distribution and because of Anime Junkies' hilariously hostile and self-important email to Urban Vision. And the interesting debate is not the legality but the morality of fansubbing because, like you say, the legal aspect is non-debatable and pretty much irrelevant anyway because it's not enforced. However, the article summarizing the legal issues at ANN is more complete and reliable than any I've seen elsewhere.
>>Another thing that has occurred to me is that maybe we
>>shouldn't have CDs in the tape library unless it's a
>>series that will probably never be licensed. When
>>people check out CDs, they can copy the files to their
>>computers and then we lose control of them. We can't
>>call the people and say "Hey, you have to delete those
>>files now" when the show becomes licensed. I remember
>>one guy who used to come in, check out a CD, run to
>>his dorm and copy the files, run back, check out
>>another CD, etc etc. That's no good. =\
>
>The thing is, the CD library is far from the only
>source for these things. Even if we don't have the CD
>library, anyone who has a dorm room still has a
>relatively high speed connection to IRC and anything
>they want.
That's the same kind of argument people try to use for fansubbing and distributing licensed anime. "If I don't do it, someone else will, so why fight it?" Fight it because it's wrong. Fight it because you can at least make it a little more difficult for people to get anime they shouldn't.
>The CD library is doing two things:
>
>1) making it possible for people who don't have high
>speed net connections or IRC savvy to get to see the
>exact same things that people who DO have the above
>already get to see, and
>
>2) making it easier for JAC to control when things get
>pulled out of the library.
A tape library can do both of those things as well.
>CDs get pulled the week a series pickup is announced.
>Tapes usually waited until the end of the semester
>because of all the hassle involved in reboxing and
>renumbering everything. In that sense CDs are easier
>to control because we can process the updates a LOT
>faster.
Why do you have to renumber everything immediately? For that matter, why do you even have to take the tapes out of the library? Just stop checking them out. Put a little mark or sticker on them or something. Save the renumbering/reboxing for the end of the semester.
>With the CD library, we're basically just simplifying
>the librarianship headaches and saving the University
>some bandwidth (download once, several people view
>from CD, vs downloads multiplied by the number of
>people interested in checking things out).
I think our effect on University bandwidth usage is both debatable and negligible, but I don't wanna get into that because it shouldn't really be our concern. As for the extra headaches involved, I can see your point there in that CDs are cheaper and easier to carry around. So it's your call, and I can definitely understand if you wanna stick with CDs. I don't wanna wish any extra work on you. :)
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