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Subject: Re: Sayings from What the Bleep Do We Know Author: Mom [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 08:53:00 01/23/05 Sun In reply to: Philip Zuvanich 's message, "Re: Sayings from What the Bleep Do We Know" on 23:34:24 01/22/05 Sat Yea for George Carlin. I've been wanting to read that book. He's been on several talk shows about it and he is, as usual, cynically funny. I post these quotes because I think discussion (not arguing) is fun. And because they reflect a lot of what I believe. I admit that the God I believe in isn't provable, other than in my own knowing. But, also, the God I believe in is not some Old Man dispensing justice according to his own judgment. Nor is he the being that desires praise and worship. Ii believe that he ( or she, if you want to be politically correct) loves all life on this planet (and on other planets) unconditionally and needs nothing from us. If we want it, we can be connected to him and then are provided support, comfort, guidance, etc. In other words what we need we will receive. Making the connection is the hard part - and I know you will say it shouldn't be - but there is no interference in a person's life if that person doesn't want it. And there is no hell as portrayed in the Bible. The hell is right here on earth and plenty of people suffer in it that there doesn't have to be one afterward. That's what I believe. Because I have received the above mentioned benefits, I'd like to share them with my kids and grandkids. Also, since I don't believe in original sin, I don't think Jesus died for us. Perhaps he was born to show us how to live in harmony with each other, and that connection I mentioned was stronger with him, so he could do what looked like miracles. But I don't follow the standard christian beliefs. But I'm not bible-pounding and I don't believe in prosyletizing. Rather, spirituality is part of my being and anyone who wants to know me is going to get some of my philosophy. Only because I can't be any other way, not because I think I am right and no one else is. Whew, enough. I'm glad you posted. Let's get some kind of a dialogue going. We could all discuss your childhoods, down on the farm, and how those experiences shaped you. Whatever, I just would like to get some discussion going. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Sayings from What the Bleep Do We Know Author: Beth [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:39:39 01/23/05 Sun Pish posh, you're all wrong. Just kidding, I'm not getting that started again. I just can't get into anything deep lately, which is why I post inane Wayne's World quotes. Mom, lighten up! I can appreciate the Carlin humor, but I don't agree with him. So are we just laughing at his point of view or taking it seriously? I'm not going to put any time into a debate if we're just having fun here. I looked up some quotes on life, since I can't think of any, and found a few that I like: "Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious." (Brendan Gill) "The purpose of life is to fight maturity." (Dick Werthimer) "Life is a sexually transmitted disease." (RD Laing) "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" (John Lennon) Then I did a random quote search and came up with this: "I hate quotations. Tell me what you know." (Ralph Waldo Emerson) So tell me what you know, and next time I'll tell you what I know, and we'll all agree that we're all wrong. =) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Sayings from What the Bleep Do We Know Author: Katy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:48:56 01/23/05 Sun Well I like this thread. So far it's been interesting and fun. I DO want them to be fun, otherwise it's NO fun and then I don't want to be here. And interesting is good too. Phil you should post more often then it would be more entertaining because then there would be more posting, more dialogue, more...more everything. So Post dammit. Beth how can you not agree with Carlin, he's so right. There have to be so many more instances where we basically accept or have certain ways of thinking of a topic because it has been presented to us in a certain way our whole lives. We should probably all go to India with Haley to have our consciousness' refitted. ANYWAY, I went looking for some appropriate quotes since my mind is more a sieve, rather than the steel trap Beth's is (I was sure you had to look that quote up).This is what I came up with... I believe in making the world safe for our children, but not our children's children, because I don't think children should be having sex --Jack Handey Deep Thoughts (Saturday Night Live - NBC) Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes. --Jack Handey Deep Thoughts I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. --Jack Handy Deep Thoughts Maybe in order to understand mankind we have to look at that word itself. MANKIND. Basically, it's made up of two separate words "mank"and "ind." What do these words mean? It's a mystery and that's why so is mankind. --Jack Handy Deep Thoughts If you go flying back through time and you see somebody else flying forward into the future, it's probably best to avoid eye contact. --Jack Handy Deep Thoughts It's easy to sit there and say you'd like to have more money. And I guess that's what I like about it. It's easy. Just sitting there, rocking back and forth, wanting that money. --Jack Handy Deep Thoughts Whenever you read a good book, it's like the author is right there, in the room talking to you, which is why I don't like to read good books. --Jack Handy Deep Thoughts OK so I got stuck on Jack Handy. And now you are too :-p [ Post a Reply to This Message ]