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Date Posted: 9/12/09 9:18:00am
Author: Tom
Subject: Oooh drama :)
In reply to: Peter Eveleigh 's message, "Tom confirms that Noel said people who left were going to hell" on 8/12/09 7:25:34pm

>That is really quite an admission, Tom, because that
>is precisely what I wrote in the posting that John
>Campbell and Tschaka would not allow on the JA forum
>because they said that to teach such a thing would be
>heresy and Noel would never have said such a thing.
>
>Everyone who knew Noel in the 70s and 80s heard him
>saying exactly that about people who left the
>fellowship

Peter - im my original postings many many months [perhaps years ago] I said that I had heard this. I of course never agreed either with the content nor the sentiment.

Not everyone who leaves the JA is destined for a non-Christian life however I suppose the law of averages dictates that many are. If [as JA members to] the bible is to believed [in 2 Peter, dog returning to his vomit and alike] then the natural end of that would be casting off salvation.

Now, I know you're a self professed non-believer but from a Christian perspective then harsh facts would be ultimately a one way ticket to hell.

I think the primary irk you and others have about this "if you leave you'll go to hell comment" is that it has been alluded if you leave the JA you go to hell. Now, I have not heard that - for instance, I've not heard "..... if you leave the JA and go to Harpole Baptist Church you'll go to hell".

There is a difference :)

Shame you ignored the rest of the original thread.

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Replies:

I have heard it -- Barbara, 9/12/09 10:47:54am
- Sunday Mornings -- Tom, 9/12/09 11:14:17am
  - No one could blame you if you were -- Barbara, 9/12/09 11:35:03am
    - Snoring -- Barbara, 9/12/09 1:27:38pm
  - Re: Sunday Mornings -- John Smith, 9/12/09 4:15:20pm
    - Re: Sunday Mornings -- Tom, 9/12/09 6:04:12pm
      - Re: Sunday Mornings -- nelly, 10/12/09 7:26:06pm
Re: Oooh drama :) -- Annonymouse, 9/12/09 11:06:50am
- Word confusion -- Barbara, 9/12/09 11:25:53am
  - Why, What's the Bloody Point ????? -- John Smith, 9/12/09 4:59:59pm
    - Heheh -- Tom, 9/12/09 6:02:14pm
      - Re: Heheh -- John, 9/12/09 6:43:39pm
        Re: Heheh -- dave, 15/12/09 7:22:00pm
- in my time EVERYONE who left was said to have backslidden -- Peter Eveleigh, 9/12/09 6:49:18pm
  - Re: in my time EVERYONE who left was said to have backslidden -- Tom, 11/12/09 11:43:20am
    - Re: in my time EVERYONE who left was said to have backslidden -- Baldy, 13/12/09 6:38:39am
      - Covenent -- Barbara, 13/12/09 7:03:10am
        a way of keeping people bound to us -- Peter Eveleigh, 13/12/09 12:12:22pm

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>>That is really quite an admission, Tom, because that >>is precisely what I wrote in the posting that John >>Campbell and Tschaka would not allow on the JA forum >>because they said that to teach such a thing would be >>heresy and Noel would never have said such a thing. >> >>Everyone who knew Noel in the 70s and 80s heard him >>saying exactly that about people who left the >>fellowship > >Peter - im my original postings many many months >[perhaps years ago] I said that I had heard this. I of >course never agreed either with the content nor the >sentiment. > >Not everyone who leaves the JA is destined for a >non-Christian life however I suppose the law of >averages dictates that many are. If [as JA members to] >the bible is to believed [in 2 Peter, dog returning to >his vomit and alike] then the natural end of that >would be casting off salvation. > >Now, I know you're a self professed non-believer but >from a Christian perspective then harsh facts would be >ultimately a one way ticket to hell. > >I think the primary irk you and others have about this >"if you leave you'll go to hell comment" is that it >has been alluded if you leave the JA you go to hell. >Now, I have not heard that - for instance, I've not >heard "..... if you leave the JA and go to Harpole >Baptist Church you'll go to hell". > >There is a difference :) > >Shame you ignored the rest of the original thread.
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