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Subject: When I say that...

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Ed Harris (London)

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Date Posted: 16:42:40 01/06/05 Thu
In reply to: Andrew 's message, "Dear God what?" on 16:24:18 01/06/05 Thu

... I am amazed to hear the UK defined as something other than a nation. It is a nation with four countries in it, or, alternatively, a country with four nations in it. However you muck about with the words, it has one head of state, a central parliament and civil service, one army, one navy, once air force, one seat at the UN, ditto NATO. There are, I concede, many people who wish that this were not the case, but until Plaid Cymru, Sinn Fein and the SNP get their way, we're just going to have to live with it.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: nations ii
Author: andrew [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:41:56 01/06/05 Thu Do you think that the Scottish and Welsh football and rugby teams etc should be abolished by law? When is a nation not a nation? The Soviet Union wasn't one. The Spanish aren't one. You could make good cases the same way for India, and certainly the west of "China" [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: ahem

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Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 18:18:30 01/06/05 Thu

Spain IS a nation, it just happens to include people within its borders who disagree. Tibet and Sianking are ntaions that happened to be ruledby another (same with basque and other minor palces in Spain), this does not stop China from being a nation, you could say though that itisnt a nation-state.

Oh and BTW I would like to see the Welsh and Scottish sports teams abolished.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: sports teams etc
Author: Andrew [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:21:37 01/06/05 Thu The Catalans and Basques are nations... "Oh and BTW I would like to see the Welsh and Scottish sports teams abolished." I'd like to see you try. Then you'd see democracy in action. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Indeed
Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:26:30 01/06/05 Thu I dont dney Basques and Catalans are ANtions, but thats no reason to deny Spain its nationhood. Like China you could say it isnt a nation-state. And yes a refferendum to megre the sports temas would fail miserably. But its something to consider for the future. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]