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] Date Posted: 01:14:38 11/26/04 Fri In reply to: Jim (Canada) 's message, "Shouldn't that be DUCHESS of Lancaster, Normandy and Mann?" on 00:39:59 11/26/04 Fri Her official title is Duke. On the Isle of Man and in Jersey, for example, they still toast "The Queen, Our Duke". I understand that this is because a Duchess is only someone who is married to a Duke, because obviously women can not inherit Dukedoms - they go to the eldest male son, even if a daughter is older, and if there are only daughters it goes to a nephew or brother or something. HM is the only exception, because the Dukedoms of Normany, Lancaster and Mann are titles of the Head of State, and the Head of State can be a woman, whereas an ordinary Duke can't. Trust me on this! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 01:26:51 11/26/04 Fri The Dukedom of Mann is an older title than the Crown of England. It goes back to the days of the Scandinavian Empire. If you ever want a microcosm of how the English (not British) state emerged from the various kingdoms, read about the Duchy of Mann. I also recommend any Commonwealth visitor to Britain to take the time to go to the Isle of Man (not 'the Isle of "Mann"' for some reason). Because of its geographical position, it is English, Irish, Welsh and Scottish, all at the same time, without being exactly British. Weird but true; and, in my opinion, it is the perfect example of how we can all live together without losing our distinct identities. Manninish alltid! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 03:17:27 11/26/04 Fri Thanks for the info on Duke, and yes, I should get to the Isle of Man some day - I have never been there. It is a good example of distinctiveness and living together at the same time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:23:40 11/26/04 Fri Twice daily flights from Liverpool, you know. It only takes half an hour, so by the time you've finished your G&T you're touching down on the island. But yes, the distinctiveness of the four British cultures is very evident in the Isle of Man, without any of them being mixed up together. I was there over the summer (we have a place there, my parents being evil tax-exiles!), and I remember one evening in particular. We had been watching an outdoor performance of Shakespeare, so qunitessentially English; it was done in the ruins of a Viking-Irish castle; as we left, a lone Scots bagpiper played on the ramparts in the gathering twilight; and coming down the steps we could just about make out Wales across the sea in the last of the light. Well worth a visit, that place. Oh, and there are no licensing laws, so the pubs never close! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |