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Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 01:26:51 11/26/04 Fri
In reply to: Ed Harris (Venezia) 's message, "Not at all..." on 01:14:38 11/26/04 Fri

The Dukedom of Mann is an older title than the Crown of England. It goes back to the days of the Scandinavian Empire. If you ever want a microcosm of how the English (not British) state emerged from the various kingdoms, read about the Duchy of Mann.

I also recommend any Commonwealth visitor to Britain to take the time to go to the Isle of Man (not 'the Isle of "Mann"' for some reason). Because of its geographical position, it is English, Irish, Welsh and Scottish, all at the same time, without being exactly British. Weird but true; and, in my opinion, it is the perfect example of how we can all live together without losing our distinct identities. Manninish alltid!

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Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 03:17:27 11/26/04 Fri

Thanks for the info on Duke, and yes, I should get to the Isle of Man some day - I have never been there. It is a good example of distinctiveness and living together at the same time.

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Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 14:23:40 11/26/04 Fri

Twice daily flights from Liverpool, you know. It only takes half an hour, so by the time you've finished your G&T you're touching down on the island.

But yes, the distinctiveness of the four British cultures is very evident in the Isle of Man, without any of them being mixed up together. I was there over the summer (we have a place there, my parents being evil tax-exiles!), and I remember one evening in particular. We had been watching an outdoor performance of Shakespeare, so qunitessentially English; it was done in the ruins of a Viking-Irish castle; as we left, a lone Scots bagpiper played on the ramparts in the gathering twilight; and coming down the steps we could just about make out Wales across the sea in the last of the light. Well worth a visit, that place.

Oh, and there are no licensing laws, so the pubs never close!

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