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Date Posted: 20:22:21 03/09/08 Sun
Author: Matt
Subject: Re: My 1 Iron journey
In reply to: John 's message, "Re: My 1 Iron journey" on 22:17:35 01/10/08 Thu

A word of advice ... get your Gap / Sand / Lob wedges cut down by at least an inch, or at least closer to what your old wedges are. You will need to have the head weight and lies adjusted by a clubfitter, but its worth it.

I had my whole set of 1-Irons built from components by a club fitter, with the 3-PW at 37 inches and the wedges at 36 inches.

They are good.

The 4 degree loft differences from iron to iron are the major part of this set that gets missed by those promoting "conventional" sets. Most modern 3,4,5 irons have 3 degree increments. So by the time it gets down to comparing 3 irons my 3 iron is 3 or 4 degrees stronger in loft than theirs. So when they say - "you have to lose some clubhead speed" you can say "yep, but that is more than made up for with my stronger loft".

There is no reason to have your wedges at a longer length. It makes sense to have your 3,4,5,6,7 irons shorter - but I want to hear why your wedges being longer helps anything? Some will say that helps in your consistency on full shots - if you are playing at low single figures that just aint so !! You need to be able to manufacture shots with the wedges and control the wedges when chipping - both helped by a shorter length.

I have had this discussion on this forum before and it usually doesnt get much support ... but I have experienced it for myself.

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[> [> [> Re: My 1 Iron journey -- Paddy, 06:00:18 03/10/08 Mon

Well JMO but if you don't have 1irons, but a clone or knock off then maybe people here don't think you can base your advice on actually using the real deal. I too made some knock offs (rather had them made) years ago and while ok, not near as good as any 1irons I used. That includes the Outburst models, the CER models and the current line. I have very good forged Snake Eyes wedges that can really do the job but not as well as eh newest line up of 1Irons. all that being said I'm glad your clubs work well for you. It is satisfying trying something and enjoying it. Paddy


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[> [> [> [> Re: My 1 Iron journey -- Paddy, 09:37:57 03/10/08 Mon

Whooops, sorry Matt, I thought you meant component (ie Golfsmith etc.) clubheads and not the 1Iron club heads. Big difference anyway. Cheers, Paddy


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[> [> [> Re: My 1 Iron journey -- Matt Falcon, 08:10:09 03/10/08 Mon

Matt,

If I remember your previous post your irons were built by a local clubfitter from clubheads you bought from 1 Iron Golf. I agree with you that the shorter length in the 3-5 irons produces some amazing results, but I disagree with you about the wedges. I personally love my 1 Iron wedges at the longer length - all of my irons are 37" in length. I find that my control and ball striking are greatly improved with the longer wedges just as my ball striking and control are vastly improved with the shorter 3-5 irons. I find that it gets back to the consistency of your swing when all of the irons are identical which not only improves your "long" iron play but your wedge play as well.

At the end of the day club length is really up to you and if your prefer shorter wedges than so be it. But I think you said that you originally had your wedges built shorter without trying them at the same length as your other irons. You should really give the longer length a try because you are just introducing another swing into your game that does'nt need to be there.

Matt F.


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[> [> [> [> Re: My 1 Iron journey -- Matt, 20:27:32 03/24/08 Mon

Actually ... I tried them at 37 inches initially.

I found my ball striking did not improve at all - it actually detracted from my wedge play. Full shots produced a much higher trajectory with the longer shafts, and reduced my control. Chipping was much less precise. Bunker play exaggerated the length issue even more.

I decided to reduce the wedges by an inch, and got instant results.

I do love my 1-Iron club heads, and have found the 4-iron to PW single length setup excellent.

I even love the wedges, they are a great club head - just like em at the shorter length.

Wedge shots are less about consistency - more about creativity for me. They save me more shots by being fitted for chipping and pitching - than fitted for full-shots.

cheers,
Matt


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