- The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Still Skeptical), 11:28:58 11/24/08 Mon
I placed my club order yesterday evening: 3-PW, GW, SW, LW, 3-Wood, Driver. I won't be able to do anything with them until after Christmas since they'll be wrapped and put under the tree.
It sounds promising but I'll continue to be skeptical until I see if they can help my game or not. I'll blog my progress here in this forum, in this thread. So check back after Christmas and I'll let everyone know how things turn out. I'll follow David Lake's instructions to the letter.
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- Re: The Adventure Begins -- tony (skeptical?), 07:16:19 11/25/08 Tue
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas, 10:27:33 12/08/08 Mon
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Anxiously Waiting), 16:47:09 12/23/08 Tue
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Impressed with Quality), 09:30:24 12/25/08 Thu
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Impressed so far with the irons), 09:02:05 12/27/08 Sat
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Making a Little Progress), 16:52:04 12/30/08 Tue
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Slowly but Surely), 14:23:59 12/31/08 Wed
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Getting the Hang of It), 17:07:48 01/01/09 Thu
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Getting Somewhere), 16:59:25 01/03/09 Sat
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (More Progress), 15:31:12 01/05/09 Mon
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Relapse and Recovery), 17:07:35 01/09/09 Fri
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (A Great Practice), 17:23:45 01/10/09 Sat
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Nailing the Driver), 16:29:53 01/12/09 Mon
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Lesson on the Course), 16:07:12 01/13/09 Tue
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Practice, practice, practice!!), 14:39:22 01/15/09 Thu
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Consistency Issues), 07:48:57 01/24/09 Sat
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (First Time on the Course), 23:10:12 01/31/09 Sat
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Once was lost, but now I'm found.), 16:55:02 02/06/09 Fri
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Amazingly Good Practice), 16:18:28 02/08/09 Sun
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Ready for the Course), 16:41:39 02/13/09 Fri
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (A Full 18), 13:45:28 02/16/09 Mon
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Slowly but Surely), 12:26:46 02/28/09 Sat
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Long Time No Post), 15:21:00 05/25/09 Mon
- Re: The Adventure Begins -- Carlos Tomas (Playing Hooky), 09:03:20 07/03/09 Fri
- Test -- Scott, 13:20:04 07/02/09 Thu
Is there anyone on Long Island, NY that has these clubs? I'm hoping to find someone willing to let me hit a few balls at the range before I make a decision on purchasing a set. Thanks
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- back injury -- Robert, 07:01:35 06/29/09 Mon
Relatively new 1-iron user here who is just now recovering from a herniated disc via use of a sterodial dos pak. Anyone who has experienced same knows it's NOT a "sore back", but a paralyzing pain(nerve impingement) equivalent to being branded.
Any 1-ironers here have any tips or advice on playing after the recovery? I've only had the clubs a couple of months, but they may be for sale if I can't get back up in the saddle. What's really frustrating is the clubs were helping a great deal with accuracy and consistency.
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- Anyone try the The Truth about Golf -- Ken, 06:58:13 07/01/09 Wed
Basically AJ states the club face should open up on the backswing and close on the forward swing. He states for a right handedplayer, that your right palm in the backswind should be facing your head. i have tryed this technique and must say it does add alot of power due to the fact that clubface is going from open to shut. But is this really good way to play?
Thanks
Ken
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- Shafts -- Harry, 18:18:10 07/01/09 Wed
In the 1Iron irons, is the Flex Plane Alignment the same as a Spine-Aligned shaft?
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- Past Newsletters -- Chance, 17:19:03 06/03/09 Wed
I just got finished reading your past SwingTips newsletters at: http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs015/1101452092206/archive/1102023176854.html
What a wealth of common sense information on golf, instruction, and equipment. There's more information contained in your newsletters than in any golf book I've ever read. Ive got to say that you've really opened my eyes after twenty years of playing golf.
Chance
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- Iron headcovers -- Brian, 20:33:40 06/11/09 Thu
To anyone contemplating the purchase of a set of irons: buy the set of iron head-covers!
Not only are they great looking but they are an inexpensive way to protect the club-heads from getting dinged up from banging around in your golf bag. They also protect the longer shafts of fairway woods and drivers from the nicks caused by iron club-head impact.
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- Wedge Spin -- Kjell, 21:25:41 06/23/09 Tue
So far I am getting decent spin on my wedges, but not enough to really spin it back from a full shot on a tight lie. Could this be because of the groove pattern or sharpness of the grooves? Titlist Vokey wedges seem to get alot more spin from the milled face. I was wondering how many of you guys out there are getting good spin?
Also having a bit of trouble chipping with the same setup as a regular iron shot. This way seems to make me too "wristy", whereas my old way of a narrow stance, open setup, choked a few inches, with the ball position off the back foot helped me to really hit the ball first. Anyone else having success with this?
Thanx.
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- club comparison -- Fred Atkins, 18:15:19 06/28/09 Sun
David,
I will be ordering a set of your clubs soon My wtf is 37 1/2", what will the length of the clubs be? I play a custom fitted set of Ping irons. My favorite club by far is my 9 iron, which has a 65 degree lie and is 36 3/8" long (butt to base of hosel). I'm curious as to how the 1irons will compare to that.
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- Swing posture -- E.V. Wagoner, 23:29:13 06/21/09 Sun
I noticed that in your ideal swing posture diagram that the arms are extended. In watching the pros, their arms drop straight down from their stance when hitting their irons. Why the difference?
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- Query about club length -- Matthew Stanton, 15:58:58 06/19/09 Fri
I have a WTF of around 34.5 inches - in terms of 1 iron clubs, what standard club would that be equivalent to?
Also, what shaft length would a wood and a driver be for this WTF?
Finally, do you have any plans to produce hybrids? I would prefer them to woods, as I like the shorter shafts
thanks
Matt
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- feedback -- trottier, 06:37:02 06/18/09 Thu
I just want to say thanks to David. ibought a used set 3-sw and 1-3-5 wood. They were in perfect shape. I increase my distance and accuracy, i enjoy the game a bit more..less frustration.I'm a natural golfer (swing like moe).and it suit me perfectly.. thank again David...good season of golf!
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- on the low extreme, 31" WTF experience anyone? -- Sean Beck, 07:30:01 06/16/09 Tue
I think that the 1 iron concept seems really logical, but I'm wondering if it works 'on the extremes'. In other words, how does it work for people who are on the bottom end or the top end of the WTF scales? I'd be a 31", so all my irons would be the length of a conventional lob wedge. That sounds exciting to me, but i'm wondering if a 3W really flies the right distance. Anyone on the low extreme have any experience to share?
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- several questions -- Brooks, 09:42:48 06/16/09 Tue
Mr Lake, I can honestly say I have never had a full set of clubs that felt like they were a good fit and I am on my 5th set of clubs (I have been playing around 10 years). I am 6'8" tall with a WTF of 40.5 inches. I have always felt like I had to bend over at the waist way too much (except perhaps on a 2 or 3 iron) to properly ground the club at setup and make a comfortable swing. I have been to 4 supposed professionals to be fitted and everyone of them has come up with slightly different recommendations. My current set is plus 1.5 inches with a standard lie on all my irons. I just recently went to a Callaway demo day to get fitted and they said my clubs needed to be plus 2 inches and bent 3 degrees upright. That is probably true as my divots tend to be a little deeper at the toe of the club but it just seems to me that I will still have the same problem of having to bend over too much on my short irons. It seems like for a tall person like myself all fitters want to base your entire fitting on the maximum length they can build a club (the 3 iron) that hardly anyone even uses anymore just so they can maintain the half inch gap in length between clubs. Will the 1iron method of fitting help me with my hunched over golf?
Also how do you determine what flex shaft a person gets when ordering a set of clubs. I have a swing speed in the high 90's on my driver and used to use a Taylormade 580 with a stiff flex shaft. After being told by the local "experts" that any speed lower than 100 should use a regular flex shaft I switched to a Ping G2 with a regular flex and promptly lost 25 yards on the average drive. Needless to say I have about had it with the conventional wisdom. I have no illusions about ever being able to hammer 300 yard drives or being a scratch golfer (I am a 15 handicap), I only want my clubs to allow me to be more consistent in my ball striking and I can take it from there.
Can you help me?
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- 1iron driver trajectory -- Tom, 21:26:18 06/06/09 Sat
I have a 45" 12* offset driver that I have used as a quick fix if I start slicing. Recently, I have been practicing with it using a center of stance ball position to kind of mimic the 1iron driver concept. I quickly became comfortable with the set-up, probably partly due to the fact that I have the woods and irons and play them center of stance as suggested. At least on the range, I am driving much straighter this way and making good face contact, but I'm hitting it really high and shorter. The ball seems to hang way up there then drop straight down about 210-220 yards out. Its still potentially an improvement because of being in play more, but I'd sure like to get the ball flight down some. Are those of you who are using the 1iron driver experiencing this, or are you able to get a more efficient trajectory?
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- Gap Wedge -- Tom (Delighted), 10:55:12 06/12/09 Fri
Bought the wedge last week and I cant seem to find the words to how I feel other that its just great and I am about ready to get a more complete set.I have been hacking around for about 40 years and my game was never too good. Every set I bought and there were several and when I soled the club the toe was also sticking up and that always gave me the feeling of not making good contact.The gap is flat as flat can be and it gives me great confidence,I did'nt realize I wrote this much but there is life after buying 1Irons.Thanks alot for a wonderful job!!
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- Measuring wtf question -- Wayne, 20:08:43 06/06/09 Sat
If the wrist to floor measurement is so critical, why not measure with golf shoes on instead of others?
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- Close to ordering.... -- Mark, 11:44:40 05/22/09 Fri
I've own 3-4 sets of clubs the past 20 years. Every set I buy I tell the wife it will be the last set. I'm working on her on a set of these! What would the length be on the 1 Iron set with a w-t-f of 33". Thank you.
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- First Impressions -- Kjell, 01:49:08 05/09/09 Sat
So the new set LW-3 + 3W arrived today. And what do you know, I got off early from work and headed straight to the range. It took a long time to unpack the new clubs since they are wrapped in plastic and bubble stuff.
First I looked at the head shape and grooves. I liked that 2 groves are painted white for viewing purposes. The clubs has a sturdy and finished look, however, the black paint didn't seem as "clean" as I have seen in other clubs. Minor. The grips, although oversided is not my first preference, are very tacky and comfortable. The 1iron logo right in front of my right thumb seemed a bit redundant. I would have opted for a better location, like the grip end. Also the 3 wood has a logo on the crown, seemingly for setup position of the center of the club. I would have opted for a dot or some other symbol which is not "wordy"
The feel of the waggle of the clubs is nothing less than superb. It really feels like the same club in my hands. but the ball just travels differently. It was really windy at the range so it was hard to really judge good distances. What was apparent was the trajectories, which seemed right on. What an amazing feeling to hit the 3 iron. Much more control. Although conditions were not right for judging true distances, the feel alone of hitting the 3 iron with a boring flight path, was enough for me.
Tnen I decided to move to the 3 wood. The shorter length felt very comfortable, and delivered better control. However it did seem considerable less in distance. So I hit my 2007 Taylormade burner 5 wood around the same distance, but not as consistantly. I have to move the ball a bit more forward to make proper contact with the 5 wood. Trying to hit the 3 wood harder just yielded less control. So I guess there may be some technique involved in increasing swing speed with this club, while simultaneously keeping the level of control.
Then it was off to the pitching green. I had read about some other forumster's concerns that the wedges would seem longer. I felt no difference. In fact, it seemed more natural to have the "same" club again. I tried some short pitches in the middle of the stance an was amazed at the backspin I was getting.Playing the ball back, forward, open yielded all of the same technique. Keeping the same "middle of stance" setup and varing the speed of the shot seemes simpler and easier to control.
Chipping with a wedge and an 8 iron also yielded good success. No need for ball back, choking up. It seemed easier to just use a slightly more narrow stance, and just use a "mini" swing that didn't break the wrists to get good control.
Overall i am very satisfied. I cant wait to play a round and put them to the stess test. i regularly play a course which is very tight and hilly with lots of lateral hazards, and requires good accuracy for scoring.
More to come...
-Kjell
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- Urge to Kill -- Rugga Mather, 13:34:41 04/07/09 Tue
I am the best range player around and I am having a terrible time moving from the range to the course. On the range it is the greatest ,straightest etc. When I go to the course I have the tendency to over swing and then Hook the ball badly. I am looking for the magic band-aid to make the transition to the course. I know this should be easy but after 40 years of conventional golf this has gotten the best of me. Thanks and I look forward to all the help I can receive.
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- close to ordering but also close to quitting -- Sean Beck, 12:35:11 05/20/09 Wed
I've really been tempted to pull the trigger on these irons. I've STRUGGLED a lot lately ever since i shot a 79 with my mizunos in April. I thought I was doing well, but now I'm shanking like crazy and I don't know what to do.
Anyway, I'm not supposing that these clubs are a shank cure but i am curious about people's experiences.
Also want to know about how you feel when you play them. Do you really use the same swing (force and physical and mental effort) on a 3I as you do with a LW? Honestly?
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- Are these clubs appropriate for me? -- Jack Davis, 17:23:09 05/01/09 Fri
I am a 56 year old mid handicapper (82 to 88), hit a three wood between 220 and 250 on avg. I hit the ball HIGH with all my irons. Still get the distance (7 iron between 155 and 165, 3 iron 195 to 205) but I don't want anything that will increase the hight of the ball flight off the irons. I can work the ball either way but tend tend toward a drop fade with the short irons. My current irons are a ping knock off (DynaCraft). The sole is not that big and I have never liked clubs with a wide sole although I don't play enough any more to play blades.
Having said this, do you think your irons would be a fit? You don't go into any detail as to the construction of the iron heads, steel type, groove type, weighting, sole. Can you provide this info?
I am interested if I can reasonably believe the clubs will perform for my type of swing. I am 6 foot and my wtf is 36.5
Thanks
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- Driver vs 3 Wood -- Love2Train, 01:06:47 05/16/09 Sat
David,
I have a question for you. I was hoping you could help me out here. Since learning how to use your clubs I have become very very consistent throughout the bag and hit eveyr single club almost dead straight at will. My problem lies with my woods however and it is not a problem of accuracy but distance. I seem to hit my 3 wood the same distance as my driver. I hit them both very well and very straight with slight draw on both, both same ball position center of stance. Same swing and same distance, and it has perplexed me very much. I have tried so much to try to figure out what I might be doing wrong here. I tried teeing it up higher and lower and playing with ball position but nothing so far has worked. Any suggestions on what I am doing wrong here? I am sure the driver should go at least 30 yards further then the 3 wood right? Thanks in advance for your help and I do love your clubs and quality.
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- Great improvement -- Richard P., 17:14:35 03/25/09 Wed
I got my 1 Irons last week and I can see the improvement already! I'm a 5 handicap player and I see a distinct improvement in my consistency along with additional distance across the board. I feel strongly that I can take my handicap down to 0 this summer with these clubs. I'll keep you posted.
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- Few questions -- Craig V, 07:49:02 05/14/09 Thu
I am thinking about getting these but I have a few questions. I have a wtf of 32. You stated that that would be about an off the rack SW. I tend to pull this club a bit but hit my 9 perfect..thoughts? Also I have read numerous reviews from people who think these club are great and lower there score, my question is simple. I am a 1 handicap, good player but I want to get better. I am inconsistent with anything below a 7 iron. Which results in loss of distance and accuracy, I play a 3,4 and 5 hybrid. My short game saves me but I want to get to the plusses. Are there any really good players that have had successes with these? Also do your wedges have the "u: grooves?
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- Swing Weight -- Johnny Ross, 06:51:40 05/14/09 Thu
I am considering ordering the 1 Iron clubs, but have concerns about the overall weight and swing weight of the clubs. Are swing weight and overall club weight optimized for each individual? I am somewhat strong (muscular). I prefer a heavier club and a swing weight between D2 and D3. Any recommendations? Thanks, Johnny
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- Swing Tip -- Seth Straughn, 12:22:57 05/12/09 Tue
Good Afternoon,
I have owned my set of 1 iron's for about 3 months and love the clubs. I have the 3-pw plus the Driver, 3 and 5 wood. I am 6'3" and weigh about 250 lbs. I hit these clubs a long way, with my PW going app 150 yards, and my driver about 310. The problem I have at the moment is controlling the distance on shorter shots 100-140 YDS. I can't afford to buy the GW,SW, & LW yet so I still have my short vokey wedges in the bag (which I can no longer seem to hit). What are some suggestions for limiting the distance on my PW.
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- 80 Has been busted -- Tyler Guthrie (Tyler ( I'm Getting there ) Guthrie), 19:03:16 05/10/09 Sun
Ok you fans of the 1Iron golf system ! Today was the day ! I busted 80 ... I scored a 78 at my club today and won low score , low net and three skins ! A little over 2 months with my 1 Iron clubs ! And My handicap dropped another point ! I was scoring in the mid 90's to high 80's three months ago . I doubt if I will ever shoot in the 90"s again ! Knock on wood ! And I would also like to add that David's few pages on the golf swing has helped me more than any book or article that I have ever read ! Thanks to Dave and One ball position and One swing plane !!!! I will e-mail back when I shoot PAR !!!
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- Staying in the bag. -- Steven King (excited), 14:34:29 05/11/09 Mon
Dave Lake,
I am very pleased with my new 1 Iron set. My order arrived about 10 business days after my order date. I have been playing golf for about 19 years and for the past two years have swicthed to a single axis swing.(no sway to the right.)I read the instructions while at the small practice range located on the golf course I play regularly. These clubs felt so good right out of the box. I have scored anywhere from the mid 70's to the high 80's for the past 15 years. Handicap has been 14 for the past year. I purchaced the 1 Iron system because I was really looking for some improvement and consistancy. Well I have both. Sorry, I didn't follow your instructions because after a few swings with the wegde and 9 iron, I knew I made right choice in clubs. I am a member of a tough nine hole course in Asheboro N.C. Well, I had to try them out which I wouldn't recommend to everyone because the instructions make since when something new is being introduced. I shot 35 even par right out of the box from the blue tees! I putted and chipped well that day which contributed to a low score. I ordered the 5,7 woods,5-pw set. The woods and irons are the best I have played since picking up a club 19 years ago; that is why they are staying in the bag.
The next week would be the test because I was playing with some friends at another course. The five wood hits so crisp and long, I used it off the tee on most holes. I only get 200-240 out of my driver or three wood. I was hitting my 1 iron 5 wood 220 plus. My playing group thought I had an illegal club because every tee shot was the same distance as their driver or a few yards shorter,or longer,and straight every time. They were using the new big name big price clubs.(Taylor Made R7 and Nike.)Oh yea, I shot a 4 over par 76 that day with upset witness I might add. A shorter club with longer distance, now who would have thought that would work. I got ten yards more with every iron v/s my traditional set. The 5 & 6 iron took more work at the driving range to get use to the short shaft, but now I notice at my home course par 3's I would have to back off one club v/s my old set. I am striking the ball the best I have in years and I havent had the clubs 30 days yet. I play 3 or 4 days a week and my scores have been from the mid 70's to low 80's.
On the days I shoot in the low 80's it is usually beause of poor chipping, putting or bad shot with traditional 3 wood or driver. I have already dropped 4 strokes off my handicap and have not shot above 84 at any course since playing these clubs. I ordered the 1 iron 3 wood for those long uphill par 4's. When it arrives I am removing and selling my traditonal driver and 3 wood. I have played in our town City-Am tournament for the past two years, winning 5th flight the 1st year, and playing in the fourth flight the second year but not playing well enough to place in the top four in flight. My goal is to improve by flight and score each year, so I will let your forum know the results in June 09. One swing plane with every club creates great confidence, which is essential in golf. I know I will improve. Thanks to 1 Iron Golf, I am no longer frustrated with golf or looking for new clubs to improve my game. The game is fun again.
Sincerly,
Steven
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- 2nd set of 1 Irons -- Ralph, 06:42:54 05/08/09 Fri
I've had my full set of 1 Irons (woods and irons) for two years and have never played better golf in my life. I've gone from a 20 handicap to a 9 handicap during this time and feel like my swing is improving every time I go out. That's pretty good for a 65 year old.
I just ordered a second set that I'm going to keep in my car for road trips while my original set is going to stay at the club.
Thank you 1 Iron Golf for a great set of golf clubs.
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- 1 iron length -- Chris, 08:40:39 04/23/09 Thu
I have a question. I listened to you on Golf Smarter Podcast. I love my ping 7 iron. Love the confidence that I have when it's in my hands. How can i compare the length of that club to what I would get if I ordered 1 Irons?
Thanks,
Chris
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- last thoughts before purchasing a 1irongolf set!? -- Michael K (Michael Kallin), 14:09:04 05/02/09 Sat
First of all greetings from Vienna, Austria (Europe)!
I heard about 1irongolf listening to he Golf Smarter Podcast and I really like the idea of single length clubs as - playing golf for a rather short time - Iīm always fighting with different swing planes.
Iīm really thinking about purchasing a set of 1irongolf clubs, nevertheless a few questions occured:
1. You are talking about custom fitting taking W-T-F measurement into account. But isnīt there any individuality lost by forcing every golfer with the same W-T-F number into the exact same posture? No room for someone bending his keens or upper part of body a little bit more or less? Might be easy to change for a "two-year-golf-veteran" like me, but for someone who has 20 or 30 years of golf behind this might be a real challenge.
2. In a former posting there was a conversation about sponsored equipment for tour pros. I agree with the statement that they would do almost everything for money and therefor of course play the newest clubs of their sponsoring golf company. But why donīt we see any tour pro useing single length clubs if these clubs are that better and more reliable? Wouldnīt tour pros take every advantage they could to improve their game and to match more wins?
and 3. As ordering of 1irongolf clubs is only possible in sets, what happens if for any reason one of the clubs would be broken after the one year warranty? Would I have to purchase a whole new set of iron clubs? Sounds to me a quite expansive way compared to a common set of clubs where you can get single clubs off the shelf any time.
Thank you for your time - hope my English isnīt too bad!
Michael
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- Steel driver -- Frank, 10:36:56 04/30/09 Thu
I read Pedro's post of 4/27/09 with fascination. I'm new to 1Irons -- I have the iron set, the driver and the 3 wood. The driver is very controllable but, for some reason, I don't get that much out of it. On the other hand, the 3 wood is the greatest club I've ever swung. The balance, the feel at impact, and the missle-like launch is fabulous. I have felt that a driver based on the materials and design of the 3 wood would be a world-beater. I'm going to order the 5 wood soon. Then I read that Pedro has an "old 12 degree steel driver" and I would really like to know if there are any still around. David, do you still have any in the warehouse? At only 5' 8" with a W-T-F of 33.0" I might have trouble finding one, but I'd really like to try. Any chance of re-introducing a steel driver with a smaller, aerodynamic club head? I think titanium and big, air-catching, dumpster-on-a-stick drivers are overrated. Before I forget, the irons are great, too. Thanks. Frank.
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- lowering scores -- Lyman Van Horn, 09:29:21 03/17/09 Tue
Can anyone out there say that the 1 irons that they purchased really lowered their scoring.
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- Used/Demo irons -- Jonathon, 18:07:13 04/29/09 Wed
I received my used/demo irons today and I can't believe the shape they're in. Except for a ball mark on the face of a couple of the irons they look brand new - I'm completely amazed at the quality plus the fact that I saved $200!!!!
These irons have high quality written all over them and they feel great. I can't wait to hit the range tomorrow and give them a thorough try. I'll keep you posted, and thanks for a great product and customer service.
Jon
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- LATEST SWING TIP (XVI) -- JOHN HYNDMAN, 01:56:00 04/27/09 Mon
Excellent advice from David Lake regarding a compact swing with in-to-out swing path.
I have found the best way to achieve a similar result is to ask pupils to keep their ELBOWS AS CLOSE TOGETHER AS POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT SWING. This forces a body generated swing and the right elbow stays close to the right hip.
David's advice about avoiding lateral swaying (the spine acts like a fixed post and everything rotates around it) is a great swing thought.
Pupils who adopt this advice immediately notice cleaner crisper contact and a draw. Once this compact swing is grooved, distance is noticably greater.
My old golf instructor taught me the importance of keeping the elbows close together many years ago. He made me wear an old inner tube from a golf cart just above both elbows. It felt wierd and restrictive to start with but the improved contact. accuracy and distance convinced me he was correct. I believe Ben Hogan used this idea to good effect when proatising.
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- Question About Swing Types? -- Ken Sanford (Inquisitive), 21:21:59 03/09/09 Mon
Mr. Lake,
I've had an interest in your clubs for some time now, and after hearing your interview on Golf Smarter, I'm probably going to buy a set, but I had a question for you. My swing is very steep, similar to Nicklaus' (but not nearly the same results). In Jack's video, Golf My Way, he talks about one swing for al clubs. I figure this plays right into the 1 Iron philosophy, but I wanted to see what your thoughts were on it. Will the 1 Iron Golf system benefit someone with a steeper swing plane more than someone with a shallow plane?
-KS
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- 1iron woods -- Pedro, 01:52:17 04/27/09 Mon
The 1iron woods are simply insanely good. The 3 and 5 woods are must haves, once you get used to them there is nothing better in the market. I also use the older Steel 12o 1iron driver, My fairways hit when I use the driver is over 90% and when I miss its barely in the first cut. My woods are 41' and my driver is 42" In my foursome this weekend of course everyone had the new drivers the R9 Cobra and so on, I had my little 1iron cannon, 250 down the middle every time I used it. They were not happy with the new drivers they had after that..I sold drivers to two of them.They looked in my bag and asked me what gives?I dont use what I sell, I replied I used what works best...
Now I work part time for a golf retailer and have a proform with all the OEM, the only thing OEM in terms of clubs in my bag is a putter. If David sold that I would have it...I was a low handicaper once now a strong 8, so with very little practice and 1 round a week if lucky I can still maintain a respectable skill level.
Human nature is to want to go back to the OEM stuff once you start playing well with the 1irons, dont do it, they work for a reason and started to play well for a reason.
Good playing to all, Pedro
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- Fantastic irons -- Jackson, 23:08:32 04/20/09 Mon
I've played two rounds with my new 1 Irons after making a few trips to the range to get used to them - it takes a few range trips to get the feel and timing down. I hit all the irons long and straight and gained about 3 yards with every one over my old set. The biggest difference is the way the ball jumps off the clubface at impact. Very consistent ball striking with practically no miss-hits. The accuracy is truly awe inspiring and this is only after ten days with the clubs. I expect some real improvement in my game over the next few months as I continue to dial these in.
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- Got my 1 Irons today -- John K, 12:21:40 04/18/09 Sat
Got my clubs (3-PW) today (Saturday delivery at no extra cost - thanks Dave!). They were delivered while I was playing, so I took them to the driving range and hit about 80 balls.
All in all, my first impression is positive. I like the way these clubs feel and I was amazed at how many center of the clubface hits I had.
I hit the 3 and 4 irons pretty low though, and wasn't overly thrilled with the distance, either. I've been hitting Adams hybrid 3 and 4 irons for a few years, and full disclosure, I hit those on the low side as well, but seems like 10+ yards longer than the 1 Irons. Any thoughts on this?
The short irons are amazing - straight, high, easy to hit and easy to chip with.
If it doesn't rain here tomorrow I'll be on the course with the new clubs for the first time. Wish me luck.
John K
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- low net in par three club tournament !! -- Tyler Guthrie (Tyler ( I'm Getting there ) Guthrie), 20:47:10 04/13/09 Mon
O K fellow golfers , I shot an 81 last week with 5 three putts ... ( new putter ) ! But yesterday the putter teamed up with my (1Irons) in our club par three tournament ...86 entered , I won low net against 85 guys . 1st prise !!! Thankyou 1Iron !!! I will let you know when I break 80 . Tyler Guthrie
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- An email that we received -- David Lake, 06:41:09 04/13/09 Mon
We received the following email recently:
In my 10 years plus of membership of Bermagui Country Club I had never won the coveted monthly medal, until 1 Iron came to the rescue last Saturday. I am now the proud owner of the April 2009 monthly medal thank you, kind Sir.
My partners/opponents were stunned at the ease and accuracy of use of all clubs while the driver gave that extra zip off the tee that had been missing. None of us had, or have, any doubt that my handicap will tumble towards the much, much lower levels that I achieved many years ago while youth still prevailed.
Unlike many of your correspondents I did not achieve instant greatness on receipt of my set of 1 Irons. I most certainly straightaway noticed the difference and the wonderful feel of the clubs although initially I could not replicate the feats of some of your correspondents.
Belief in your 1 Iron concept kept me going and I have improved inexorably since receiving them just on a year ago. Other previous new sets of clubs would always work for a few weeks, sometimes months, but then fade into disuse through continued lack of success. Not so for your clubs which improve my game markedly in some respect with every outing.
To give you a rough idea here are some figures:
In the year or so prior to having the set of 1 Irons I was playing at an horrific 40% over handicap on average. Only the very occasional 'good' game saved me from descent into Hell. In the first 6 months of owning and learning to use the 1 Irons my average had dropped to under 30% over handicap. Over the past 6 months this has gone further down to just over 20% above handicap while the most recent 2 months has seen this figure fall to between 15% and 18% above.
These figures may not sound or look spectacular but all golfers may well be surprised, if not shocked, to find out that their average percentage over handicap lies at a much higher level than they'd ever have considered.
Competition wins have gone from exceedingly rare to an almost regular occurrence since hefting the 1 Irons. My handicap, which had shot out from its low of 10 some 3 or 4 years ago to a very worrying 18 (almost 19 actually) a year ago, has now become a downward spiraling 15 (the actual figure is 14.5 as of Saturday's medal win). 1 Iron has reversed a terrible trend of long standing.
I have no doubts, nor do my regular partners, to tell you the truth, that this trend will continue until the good man upstairs decides This is as far as I can allow a man of his advanced years to improve. Hopefully he will make that figure one that I have so far, in a long golfing career, failed to achieve a single figure handicap. It sure feels headed all the way there. Now, won't that be something?
Sincerely and Thank you all,
L.H., Australia
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- release? -- Pedro, 06:40:50 03/31/09 Tue
David just out of curiosity, based on your swing tips etc.
do you recommend a full release like a full swivel with the lead hand almost palm up or flat lead wrist during the swing untill after the ball is gone?
or even something like this go to Talygolf.com and take a look at this training aid I have it and use it mainly for the short game. Thanks Pedro
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- Scoring and lowering your HDCP -- Lyman Van Horn (Lowering your round and enjoying golf more.), 06:42:21 03/16/09 Mon
I went from a 19 HDCP 5 years ago (55 yrs old), and now I am a 12 HDCP (60 yrs. old). I am stuck on the 12. I can't seem to get any lower. I want to know - Has purchasing the 1 irons lowered your HDCP.
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- NIce 1iron support on You tube -- Pedro, 14:42:32 02/19/09 Thu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh1Yql-WQZ4
if it does not show up go you you tube, search for swing man golf, look for the one on choosing equipment..
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- Your confidence grows ( NOT comes and goes ) -- Tyler Guthrie (Tyler ( I'm Getting there ) Guthrie), 21:07:22 03/17/09 Tue
I don't know who I'm sending this to ??? I was trying to get to Dan ! I sent him a message on his own e-mail address but I don't think it worked ! But I came up with a Saying while trying to help him ...that is " to me, the main difference between David's knowledge of this Game... (we all love ??? ) and most other opinions !" Is that as amatures with limted time to invest ,David's approch and knowledge helps your confidence Grow NOT Come and GO !" Speaking just for my self I build on my knowledge, skill and confidence each time I play or Practice ! Thanks Dave
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- A few questions for current 1Irons users -- Dan, 14:49:41 03/13/09 Fri
Hi Folks.
I am interested in purchasing some 1Irons, but have a few questions for those of you who own them in hopes of helping me make my purchasing decision.
Wedges
Do you play 1Iron wedges?
Have you cut down the length of your 1 iron wedges?
Did you purchase 1Iron wedges to go back to your conventional wedges?
Long Irons
Do you play your 1Iron 3 iron?
Do you play your 1Iron 4 iron?
Have you replaced your 3 or 4 iron with either a 1Iron fairway wood or a convention hybrid club?
My questions are based on the following...
I have always had problems hitting full wedge shots from the fairway or rough... I don't hit them thin, but off the hozel. It doesn't always happen of course, but enough that my confidence gets rattled. I was thinking that I would just get a set of conventional wedges (PW,GW,SW,LW) made, all the same lie angle and weight and have them built to a PW length. (which I hit well)
I have a 21* and 24* hybrid club. I hit the 24* very well, but lack consistency with the 21*. So was thinking of having the lie angle and weight modified and the shaft cut down so that they would match that of the 24*.
I would use 1Irons to fill in the gap between the 24* hybrid and the PW.
Your thoughts?
Dan
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- Grooves -- Jimmy, 13:12:22 03/11/09 Wed
David:
How often should one sharpen the grooves with 1irons? Thanks.
Jimmy
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- Do what the man says ! -- Tyler Guthrie (Tyler ( I'm Getting there ) Guthrie), 20:23:51 03/09/09 Mon
O k Golfers ! My hadicap is stuck at 15 . I have not won a Skin or Low net in our group of 40 players in two months ... Until last weekend !!! 3 skins and shared 1/2 of low net twice ! That is from 10 Days , 2 rounds and 4 trips to the range with Dave's 1Iron"s !!! And from reading and doing every thing he says to do in his book ! His words of wisdom have even helped me with my Taylor Made Driver and 3wood . When my swing starts to go bad on me , I slow down my swing and simply re- play Dave's words in my head and put every thing back in to first gear . 3/4 swings and 1/2 if need be and I am right back on track ! Even my chipping is going great guns because I am using the same length shafts , Golfer's ... It's just so much LESS to think about . Can not wait until I don't thing at all ! I will let you all Know when I break 80 . And I will !! P.S. I have not kept my clubs a secret but nobody seems to notice the shafts being the same . Playing in a Scamble this weekend and I will be the strongest 15 hdcper there !
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- First practice and round -- Pedro (mwRo), 06:19:46 03/09/09 Mon
Hello everyone, Had my first practice this weekent went awsome took just a few balls to groove my swing with my 1irons, disclaimer I have both the 1irons and my own I built and use as a second set or when friends come over..
I hit my driver pretty good also a couple of pushes at first but started to release and bang down the middle with a tiny draw. I was never a long hitter but I was about 235-245, when I was warmed up I got about 255-260 out of my little 42" cannon. Putting is easy for me so just a few putts just to recal what it felt like.
I spent the winter at the gym doing lots of core, strength and flexibilty training and that I think made the difference. I got these dvd'd series plenty cheaper than fredericks golf at over 100.00, go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJwXz6gvBk&feature=related
The web site is http://progolfstretchingexercises.com/
the dvd's are worth the money under 40.00 and lots more.
I thought I would pass that on just a little gem a friend of mine passed on to me.
By the way shot a 40 first 9 of the year from the back T's
Not a par 3 by the way. So 1irons+proper training+smart practice=a very happy golfer and I dont do polirics....
happy golfing..
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- Problems with the driver -- JohnC (frustrated, and needing help), 16:21:26 03/05/09 Thu
The irons and fairway woods are working pretty good, but I'm having big trouble with the driver.
I've been to the range four times with it and can't say I've had one shot that was as good as an average shot from my long shafted Taylormade.
The only shots that have any trajectory is if I hit it close to the crown. The typical shot is a low push with quite a bit of fade. I've moved the ball forward which helps a little, but I'm not seeing much progress. I can hit the 7 wood (off the deck) and get the ball further in the air.
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- Podcast -- Martin (Happy), 02:41:39 03/05/09 Thu
Your podcast with fred made so much sense to me I practice with an old steel shafted 7 iron in my back yard and play with graphite Titliest AP2. But I always feel that my swing is better using the old 7 iron the weight seems to carry through and I don't have to think about staying behind the ball or keeping my head to my right through the swing because it just happens naturally. I think you have another customer from Australia!
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- Took the step forward -- Chuck (totally excited), 22:29:07 03/03/09 Tue
I took a step forward and ordered a set of irons, driver, 3 wood, and the full wedge setup. I've been reading all of David's articles and have a difficult time with the different length clubs as it is. My wife finally got me to try golf 2 years ago and it is a wonderful relaxation sport that we both enjoy. I did cut my starter set to the same length and have been totally amazed at the increase in ball contact and driving ability, although I am seeing and understanding David's concerns with doing that with the different weights. The increase of ball contact made me a believer in David's clubs and design and I am very excited about the arrival of my new clubs!!
Thanks David and I look forward to the arrival of the new clubs!
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- Golf trip -- Tom T., 19:57:09 03/03/09 Tue
David, went to NC last weekend and played several courses in the Pinehurst area. The last day we played at a brutal track called Tobacco Road in Sanford. I am proud to tell you that I shot an 89 with my 1irons. This course is mostly waste area, and I was by far the most accurate player in my group. I managed to stay in the grass on all but 1 hole. I have you and my irons to thank. You are the golf guru. Thanks again, Tom
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- Practicing at a golf simulator -- Peter McCann (Peter McCann), 20:53:55 03/03/09 Tue
After several trips to the driving range and lots of hitting balls in a dome I recently tried for the first time playing a simulator. I would highly recommend this to anyone who can't figure out exactly what they are doing wrong. The simulators give you all sorts of useful feedback, including swing plane, club head speed, launch angle and where the ball contacted the club face. It was great getting my swing speed on my 4 iron to match my swing speed on my 8 iron, leading to better consistency. But where it was really helpful was helping with my slice. I had assumed it was a swing plane problem or that I was leaving my club face open. It turned out my swing plane was good and my face was perfect, but I was consistently hitting the ball off the toe of the club. It was an easy fix once I knew what I was doing wrong. I would not have guessed this was the problem without the feedback from the simulator.
While the weather outside is frightful (still) I would highly recommend a trip to your local simulator.
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- Relationship between club length and distance -- Bob Endriss (Puzzled), 06:19:07 02/21/09 Sat
I understand the theory on same length clubs. But if length is not an important factor in distance, why are the metal woods longer than irons?
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- good move -- daniel trottier (bull eye), 09:11:53 02/18/09 Wed
hi! i'm from quebec, canada. i just bought a demo set 3-pw +gw,sw. i'm sure a made the right move to put my game to the next level. i'm currently a 12 handicap. I want to shave at least 5 strokes. i'm gone it the ball in the screen for at least 2-3 months. plenty of time to groove my new swing.
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- WTF if I choke down normally? -- Beck, 09:35:47 01/09/09 Fri
Hi,
I'm thinking about getting these clubs, but I am nervous about the WTF measurements and how over time I've gotten used to playing choke down irons. I actually have shortened shafts (-1.5"--i'm 5'6") AND I choke down about 2 inches or more at times. While this hasn't really hurt my distance (less height), I wonder if I should compensate somehow with my reported WTF length or just go with what 1-iron suggests. My favorite club is probably my pw which can go about 135-140 yds. even though I choke down quite a bit. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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- length of 1-irons -- Bernie Pods, 04:33:33 02/17/09 Tue
I currently play Callaway x-18s and was wondering what club length in that set is comparable to the club length of a 1-iron set if my WTF is 34.5 inches.
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- Driver and Ball position center of stance question. -- ShawnG, 14:59:18 02/16/09 Mon
Just curious about one thing. I understand why with your clubs you need a center of stance to achieve the best results but if you have your driver in center of stance it would seem to me that the driver would be slightly open or hooded. Is your drivers perfectly square at center position?
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- Trouble with Stance -- JohnC (slowly progressing), 19:07:07 01/29/09 Thu
I've been to the range about 7 times and I'm having trouble finding the proper stance. My W-T-F is 34.5 so my 1irons are the length of a 9 iron. The outside of my feet are shouder width apart. I'm trying to swing in a barrel but I'm unsure on how upright I should be. I'm getting too many thin shots or big divots. I feel like I'm bent over quite a bit. I also feel I'm working to hard to get respectable distance as I'm transistioning from mucher stronger lofts. I end up that sometimes I'm hitting from in front of the ball.
Suggestions?
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- Smooth Irons -- DHust, 08:58:32 02/01/09 Sun
I have my new set of clubs and they are great. However, I've noticed that the shafts are not graduated like steel shafts of other clubs. Why is this?
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