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Subject: Re: Counter proposal - What?

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Ali

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Date Posted: 14:17:40 05/19/03 Mon
In reply to: Ian 's message, "Counter proposal" on 14:00:53 05/19/03 Mon

>In case someone wishes to take it forward.
>
>2.8 The Team Match
>
>2.1.4.x -> 2.8.1.x
>2.8.1.4 At least...
>
>2.8.1.5 In the event that a member society has a team
>which does not include advanced or intermediate
>dancers, then they may apply to the standing committee
>for permission to enter that team at a lower level
>than would ordinarily be the case - subject to the
>following conditions: - A team consisting entirely of
>beginners may enter the D team match or higher, A team
>of novice dancers must enter C team match or above.

What D-team match?

The whole point of the entire proposal is to move away from such hideously contrived and unbalanced concepts as 'the ABCD-team match' and move to a fair-for-all divisional system. The names of teams is irrelevant - calling something a D-team when there is no AB or C MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER. There is no such thing as the D-team match.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

I presume by this proposal that you intend to move away from the 2-division idea. I look forward to hearing how you intend to resolve all the problems from which it suffers, and how you intend to produce a valid scoring system (and I don't include the existing points system as being anywhere close to this). The system I have proposed is not compatible with a split team match.

>?2.8.6.2 Throughout the team match, each team shall be treated as if they were a single couple entering a four-dance event, and scrutineered accordingly: all couples are recalled together, and placings found in finals for the whole team. Couples within a team are not considered individually.

>Optional additions
>
>2.8.1.6
>
>Points gained by teams exercising 2.8.1.5 may not
>count towards overall university scores.
>
>2.8.1.7
>
>If captains from three or more other universities
>object to a team exercising 2.8.1.5 then the team
>shall not be allowed to dance in the lower event.
>
>2.8.1.9 That teams be marked as a group (al a 4 dance
>or individually (This can be treated as a seperate
>issue as far as I am concerned.)
>
>2.8.1.9.1 (if you go for team marking)
>It shall be the responsibility of the host university
>to encourage incomplete teams to amalgramate....

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Subject	Author	Date
Counter proposal	Ian	14:29:49 05/19/03 Mon
Re: Counter proposal -- Ali, 15:34:30 05/19/03 Mon Re: Counter proposal -- Order, 15:36:40 05/19/03 Mon Re: Counter proposal -- Tim, 15:39:28 05/19/03 Mon