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Date Posted: Fri, 11/22/02 2:33pm
Author: Bella
Subject: Re: Lakota question
In reply to: Steve Russell 's message, "Re: Lakota question" on Fri, 11/22/02 1:28pm

>
>There is a guy named Kenny Hawkman, who calls himself
>a "Lakota Icye Wicasa" and is quoted in the newspaper
>here on how one builds a sweat lodge and I quote here
>"The pieces of cloth that bind the willow branches are
>colored white, yellow, red and black, representing the
>races of mankind."
>
>How can Euro race theory appear in an ancient
>ceremony? Assuming Lakota did have race theory, why
>would they build a sacred ceremony around it that
>belonged to them alone?
>
>First contact with whites could have been as early as
>1100, Norsemen. First contact with blacks is
>documented to be in the 1500s, Moors with the Spanish.
> The only way to have contact with so-called orientals
>would be either the land bridge or the alleged landing
>of Chinese on the California coast circa 1000.
>
>Am I confused or is Kenny Hawkman?
>
>Steve


Steve
Well I have news for you (and in fact anyone on the board who chooses to read this post). A documentary screened this week (which I recorded on tape but have not had time to watch yet) claims that the original inhabitants of America were French! And they were there many years (ie thousands)before Indian people. And they have established that many "Objibwe, who live around the Great Lakes area, have European DNA and this proves the point". I would have thought the only point that proved was the later arrival of Euro people, who no doubt had inter-married with tribes in that area.

I expect you know of this theory already, I knew of the Norsemen theory, but had never heard this "Europeans as first inhabitants" theory before.

As far as the "coloured cloth" theory binding red, black, white and yellow together, presumably some people have put their own slant on ancient ceremonies, with the benefit of modern day knowledge and experience. It sounds like one of those rather "new agey" interpretations. My knowledge of Lakota ceremonies is non existent, but I don't see how any ancient ceremony could include that reference to the races of the world.

Bella

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