Re: Christianity and War ..... -- Talking Circle Alternative

[ Show ]

Support VoyForums

[ Shrink ]

VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, [5], 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: Wed, 03/26/03 11:44pm
Author: sunny
Subject: Re: Christianity and War .....
In reply to: Bella 's message, "Re: Christianity and War ....." on Wed, 03/26/03 5:38pm

>Sunny,
>Last night I posted on this, can't remember exactly
>what I said but it would have been anti the organised
>Christians religions (or the way they are interpreted
>by some followers).

Hi Bella,
Sorry I couldn't get back here right away [work & warnews/exhausted etc. :o( ], but I'm really pleased to see people posting here again :o))). Sure hope the board didn't "eat" one of your posts, tho .... if that happens again, let me know so I can pass it on to the folks at Voy, OK.

>One thing your topic coincided
>with, which I didn't go into last night because it was
>late and I was tired and rambling, was that yesterday
>morning there was an interesting debate on BBC news
>(so interesting I left an hour late for work rather
>than videotape it) between 3 clerics, 2 Christian (one
>had been an Army chaplain) and one Muslim. They were
>really debating where, or if, Christianity comes into
>a war, or any other religion. The Muslim man is
>vehemtly anti the Iraq war, although he sees himself
>now as British. He feels that the anti-American,
>anti-British backlash in the Arab world is going to be
>prolonged and bitter.

I'm afraid he's right about this :o((( -- these folks have "long memories", and are still rankling at their defeats at the hands of the Crusaders .... some writers are even suggesting that the Islamic fundamentalists won't be satisfied before they have a world empire of their own with true dominence over "the infidels" of all faiths, but especially the Xtians and Jews, probably :o((( ... fundamentalism is not my favorite thing, in its Islamic, or Xtian, or even its Jewish form !!

>The 2 Christians were seeing the
>war as "God's work", or rather men (and women) doing
>God's work - painful though it is, we are striving for
>a better world etc. It was a far more interesting
>discussion than I've made it sound, it's particuarly
>interesting to hear Muslim views at this time.

Yes, this was the part of the quote that was most interesting to me, that religiousness and killing have NOTHING to do with each other, and any belief system that attempts to ease peoples' pain over the death of another is doing deep damage to their souls :o(((

> the
>fact that Bush is apparently considered to believe he
>is on a divine mission and has been chosen by God to
>wage war on Iraq I found somewhat unnerving. Do you
>think that is true, anyone? I would have said the
>motives were somewhat different. I don't know which is more
>frightening actually, if he actually believes that, or
>the ulterior motives he may have. Bella

Bush, himself, seems to be a strange person to be in the role of world leader, and I probably make a mistake in not taking him more seriously .... I've been considering him more a pawn in the hands of his backers and advisors who "feed" him what they think he needs to hear to get out and "sell" their agenda for them :o((( .... but as a person, some have called him a "dry drunk," by which I think they mean he has a lot of internal confusion and hostility, and being no longer able to "medicate" it with alcohol, he "intoxicates" himself with the crusade mentality you are describing above .... pretty scary stuff if true :o(((.

sunny

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Replies:

Re: Christianity and War ..... -- Bella, Thu, 03/27/03 5:41pm