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Date Posted: - Tuesday - 01/ 6/09 - 12:23am
Author: Terry Bradlow
Subject: Hull ID Numbers

Hi all,
I'm in the process of buying a boat, an M40... I've hear you all refer to your boats as M31,M32 M36 and M40 followed by a hull number which I assume refers to production from the factory. Is there a Hull Identification number much like a VIN number to these boats that ties to the title? If so where would I look for it when checking the documents. I want to make sure the title is correct to the boat. Thanks
Terry

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[> Hull ID -- Steve M-32 #59, - Tuesday - 01/ 6/09 - 12:32am

I'm not sure on the 40 but on the 31/32 you can find the hull number on the forward side of the deck beam as you enter the forward cabin. If a 40 follows true to the other Mariners you will find the number in lots of other places to mark parts for specific boats. Pull out a cutting board or a drawer and look on the back or the bottom. I found one on the top of the door to the head.

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[> another number -- Randall, - Tuesday - 01/ 6/09 - 1:56am

Terry,

Beyond what Steve describes, there's another number on Murre of some 10 or 12 digits that's laquered to the inside of the hull inside the hanging locker. Which is to say, hidden.

Though curious, I've never bothered to figure out what it represents. But given it's length, I'd guess that number is also on a yellowing form in some governmental office somewhere.

RR

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[> a picture of the number -- Randall, - Tuesday - 01/ 6/09 - 2:07am

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[> Thanks -- Terry Bradlow, - Tuesday - 01/ 6/09 - 7:27am

Thanks guys for all the information.... I'm trying to avoid title fraud as can happen with old boats. I've seen it happen where one boat is junked and the title used on another boat where the title has been lost.It happened to my brother once and he had a hell of a time to get it straightened out. Just like on cars there is a long number with letters that is a Vessel Identification number. This number should be on your registration and title, check your titles and registration. I guess it could be referred almost to like a serial number as well.

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[> Vessel ID -- Terry Bradlow, - Tuesday - 01/ 6/09 - 7:33am

Hi Guys just so you know better of what I'm talking about this I found on the state of Florida website. This is the Law
Hull Identification Numbers

No person shall operate on the waters of this state a vessel, unless the vessel displays the assigned hull identification number. A hull identification number is unique to the vessel and allows its positive identification.

The hull identification number must be carved, burned, stamped, embossed or otherwise permanently affixed to the outboard side of the transom or, if there is no transom, to the outermost starboard side at the end of the hull that bears the rudder or other steering mechanism, above the waterline of the vessel in such a way that alteration, removal or replacement would be obvious and evident.

The characters of the hull identification number must be of not less than 12 in number and no less than one-fourth inch in height. Vessels for which the manufacturer has provided no hull identification number and homemade vessels constructed or assembled by the owner shall be assigned a hull identification number by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.

Any questions regarding the hull identification number on a vessel should be directed to the nearest Fish and Wildlife Office or to the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles' Customer Service Center (850) 617-2000.

So I guess we're looking for a 12 digit number, let me know what you find
Terry

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[> M40 ID -- Mike Anthony, - Wednesday - 01/ 7/09 - 2:41pm

We have a GM-40, the number, #85 (hull number is burned in the forward part of the VBerth) is all that is on our boat. I should qualify that by saying we have found the number 85, written in magic marker in a number of locations. Behind drawers etc. The hull number that is on the title is not afixed to our hull. I dont believe it ever was.

Mike & Paula
S/V Tivoli

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[> Hull ID # -- Jake, - Wednesday - 01/ 7/09 - 11:10pm

On Our Mariner 32' "Maranatha" on the hull number is on the starboard side of the transom.

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[> [> Documentation Number -- John & Jan, - Thursday - 01/22/09 - 3:30pm

Santa Teresa is documented with the Coast Guard rather than registered with the state. For documented vessels, the number has to be permenently fixed to the hull. For example, on ST the number is routed onto the frame in the V-berth. This number is different from the hull number (which is also in the V-berth carved into a stringer on the anchor locker side behind the compression post along with the words "Made in Japan."

The documentation number is also on all of our paper work. I hope this helps.

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