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Subject: Re: De-mixing explained (sort of) - part 2


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Dale (Thanks Franklyn)
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Date Posted: Tue October 25, 2022 17:40:30
In reply to: Franklyn 's message, "Re: De-mixing explained (sort of) - part 2" on Tue October 25, 2022 04:20:13

Hi

we will have to agree to disagree on this topic.

It's true that the limitations of mid 1960's technology
were an obstacle to be overcome, but that is what made the advancements by G.Martin and all involved so important.

If you have a version of Revolver that truly sounds terrible, I can only assume it's a poorly mastered north American pressing, possibly even pressed from a several generations removed production tape.

If you have any access to a vintage U.K. pressing in good condition, mono OR stereo, and listen to that on even a modest quality hi fi system, I'm sure you will re evaluate the quality of those sessions. It does NOT have to be a 1966 original either. The 1970's all analogue pressings with the black and silver label printing, also sound fantastic.

It's also interesting that you are comparing a 1980's Abbey Rd. CD to the recent remix. That tells me we are part of the cliche'd generation gap. My thoughts and opinions on all 50's, 60's and 70's music are based on decent condition analogue vinyl pressings.

Sure I have listened to more than my share of cds from all eras, but beyond the discussion of analogue vs, digital, my concerns about all the remixes have far more to do with the relationship, volume wise and in spacial relation to each other, compared to the original mixes, as well as how the actual tonal sound of the instruments and vocals are often altered by the remixes.

If, and only if, it truly were possible to create an
"improved" mix of these classics, while retaining their original sonic properties and individual component volumes.
I could probably get on board.

Since that seems to be impossible, I can only recommend upgrading the copy of the original mix that each fan has.

There is one gent on Youtube that makes very watchable videos on this topic. He goes by "parlogram".

Last thought: regarding Beatles cds, the original 1980's
releases in the standard jewel cases were never considered to be outstanding, for a variety of reasons.
The 2009 stereo remasters issued in "digipac" form, are considered much closer to the intended sound of the 1960's
master tapes. You may be surprised at how great that version of Abbey Road sounds. Don't forget, ALL the Beatles actually participated in that 1969 mix in the first place, not just the audio engineers at abbey road.

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