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Date Posted: Mon, March 15 2004, 10:25:39
Author: Peter van der Hoog
Subject: Re: Karpov on Russian TV
In reply to: Katerina 's message, "Re: Karpov on Russian TV" on Mon, March 15 2004, 5:56:07

>The difference is that in Yeltsyn time media told the truth and now they are totally controlled by the government and the censore is restored. Chechen topic is a taboo.

So you say the public is brainwashed by the governement and they have no idea what really is going on? But you also say it's not true that 70% supports Putin. Shouldn't it be one of both?

>I dunno what exactly u heard about it but the fact is
>that Movsar Baraev(the organizer of the terroristic
>act) did work for the FSB in July 2002 and had a FSB
>ID.

There are in history examples were governements faked attacks to start a war but I don�t see a good reason in this case. The question is also: why to use a risky gaz and get the blame for the killing?

>It is also known, that the power ministers are responsible for the gas attack.
Yes for sure and they are trying to hide that. No doubt.

> One of the terrorists left the building before gas attack and saved. Later he gave an interview for "Novaya gazeta" and said that >the government planned the attack from the very beginning and he had constant connection with the FSB.

A very unlikely story. He agrees to work with the FSB, then he is the only one to survive (or were all the terrorists involved?) and then he suddenly starts to talk? It looks more like a typical case of a terrorist who tries to create as much confusion as possible.

I have no confidence in Putin but it will only harm his opponents when they come up with doubtfull conspiracy stories.

>After Al Quaeda already took the responce?! There was
>a claim from one of its activists placed on Al Jazeera
>site.

Yes

>History learns such complicated
>>conspiracies seldom happen. Even Hitler or Stalin
>>didn�t order such kind of plots.
>
>They ordered enough other plots.

Yes, completely correct but never something illogical and crazy as the theatre drama.

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Replies:

A bit offtop -- Katerina, Tue, March 16 2004, 6:30:10
- What an event! -- Margaret, Tue, March 16 2004, 14:15:20
  - I would restrain from such comments at ur place. (NT) -- Katerina, Thu, March 18 2004, 5:36:27
    - Re: I would restrain from such comments at ur place. -- Margaret, Sun, March 21 2004, 16:09:11
  - Peter is not a loser, he is a misogynist -- Todd, smart, Sat, March 20 2004, 3:26:27
- What's wrong, Katerina? -- Todd, Tue, March 16 2004, 23:11:40
  - Not here (NT) -- Katerina, Thu, March 18 2004, 5:38:05
    - I think I know why Peter attacks you! -- Todd, Sat, March 20 2004, 3:17:10
      - Who told u I was attacked? -- Katerina, Sat, March 20 2004, 7:09:53
        Re: Who told u I was attacked? -- Peter van der Hoog, Sat, March 20 2004, 12:36:32
        Como dices? Nunca hablaba con tu amiga! -- Katerina, Sun, March 21 2004, 2:56:58
        Re: Who told u I was attacked? -- Margaret, Sun, March 21 2004, 16:06:50
        Nice conversation -- Todd, Tue, March 23 2004, 17:14:30
        Re: Nice conversation -- Peter van der Hoog, Wed, March 24 2004, 4:14:44
        Re: Nice conversation -- Katerina, Wed, March 24 2004, 4:53:40
        What for? To show how cool you are? That is not rude, that is stupid -- Todd, Wed, March 24 2004, 13:11:38
        Re: What for? To show how cool you are? That is not rude, that is stupid -- Peter van der Hoog, Thu, March 25 2004, 5:55:22
        Re: What for? To show how cool you are? That is not rude, that is stupid -- Todd, Fri, March 26 2004, 10:03:34
        With phone calls it is much easier -- Katerina, Sat, March 27 2004, 3:12:13