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Date Posted: Mon, March 15 2004, 5:56:07
Author: Katerina
Subject: Re: Karpov on Russian TV
In reply to: Peter van der Hoog 's message, "Re: Karpov on Russian TV" on Mon, March 15 2004, 4:33:20

>Are we then totally misguided by the (western) media?
>I do see a lot of interviews with Russians who say: We
>like Putin because he brought stability. They consider
>the Yeltsin years as terrible. That does not mean
>Putin is not dangerous. Hitler also brought more
>prosperity, it's no use to deny that.

Stability? Are u serious? Do u know how many disasters happened to Russia last 4 years? Incomparable with Yeltsyn time. The difference is that in Yeltsyn time media told the truth and now they are totally controlled by the government and the censore is restored. Chechen topic is a taboo. The documentary about Nord-Ost tragedy was forbidden to show on TV. I can imagine that backward ppl from Russian country are brainwashed, but Karpov knows the truth and simply lies. As well as many other public figures. They sell themselves. I am sick of such ppl.

>There is so much distrust in Russia. Now people even
>think the government was behind the Moscow theatre
>drama. You can never exclude anything but experience
>tells such accusations are seldom true.

I dunno what exactly u heard about it but the fact is that Movsar Baraev(the organizer of the terroristic act) did work for the FSB in July 2002 and had a FSB ID. It is also known, that the power ministers are responsible for the gas attack. One of the terrorists left the building before gas attack and saved. Later he gave an interview for "Novaya gazeta" and said that the government planned the attack from the very beginning and he had constant connection with the FSB. If u are interested, I'll try to find the interview. A few months after the interview that guy was killed in the car accident.

After the bomb
>attack in Spain many people thought the Spanish
>government was behind that attack

After Al Quaeda already took the responce?! There was a claim from one of its activists placed on Al Jazeera site.

and many people
>still think the American government was behind the 11
>September attack.

such a version was placed in Russian anti-American and anti-Semitic papers. Those papers also wrote that Yeltsyn and Putin are "puppets" of the World Jewish Government and the CIA.

History learns such complicated
>conspiracies seldom happen. Even Hitler or Stalin
>didn�t order such kind of plots.

They ordered enough other plots.

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Replies:

Re: Karpov on Russian TV -- Peter van der Hoog, Mon, March 15 2004, 10:25:39
- A bit offtop -- Katerina, Tue, March 16 2004, 6:30:10
  - What an event! -- Margaret, Tue, March 16 2004, 14:15:20
    - I would restrain from such comments at ur place. (NT) -- Katerina, Thu, March 18 2004, 5:36:27
      - Re: I would restrain from such comments at ur place. -- Margaret, Sun, March 21 2004, 16:09:11
    - Peter is not a loser, he is a misogynist -- Todd, smart, Sat, March 20 2004, 3:26:27
  - What's wrong, Katerina? -- Todd, Tue, March 16 2004, 23:11:40
    - Not here (NT) -- Katerina, Thu, March 18 2004, 5:38:05
      - I think I know why Peter attacks you! -- Todd, Sat, March 20 2004, 3:17:10
        Who told u I was attacked? -- Katerina, Sat, March 20 2004, 7:09:53
        Re: Who told u I was attacked? -- Peter van der Hoog, Sat, March 20 2004, 12:36:32
        Como dices? Nunca hablaba con tu amiga! -- Katerina, Sun, March 21 2004, 2:56:58
        Re: Who told u I was attacked? -- Margaret, Sun, March 21 2004, 16:06:50
        Nice conversation -- Todd, Tue, March 23 2004, 17:14:30
        Re: Nice conversation -- Peter van der Hoog, Wed, March 24 2004, 4:14:44
        Re: Nice conversation -- Katerina, Wed, March 24 2004, 4:53:40
        What for? To show how cool you are? That is not rude, that is stupid -- Todd, Wed, March 24 2004, 13:11:38
        Re: What for? To show how cool you are? That is not rude, that is stupid -- Peter van der Hoog, Thu, March 25 2004, 5:55:22
        Re: What for? To show how cool you are? That is not rude, that is stupid -- Todd, Fri, March 26 2004, 10:03:34
        With phone calls it is much easier -- Katerina, Sat, March 27 2004, 3:12:13