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Subject: Michael Morre(sp?) Makes Me laugh


Author:
Jilly
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Date Posted: 08:48:01 03/24/03 Mon

Did anyone else see the scene he made at the oscars last night? I thought it was hilarious. He has some big ass balls to get up there and say the things he did last night. Any comments on his performance? If you didn't see it, he called the world we live in ficticious, he called Bush a ficticious president, and he called this war ficticious. He says it a lot better than me though. It's a good scene to watch again if you know anyone that taped the oscars.

Can't wait to see you guys in about a month!!!!

Jillybean

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[> Subject: Gets your stinkin paws off of me......


Author:
Charlton Heston
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Date Posted: 14:05:21 03/24/03 Mon

Michael Moore is a fat unpatriotic scumbag. If I ever see him again I will punch him in his fat stomach and skullfuck his children.
[> Subject: Jon Stewart is genius


Author:
KEith
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Date Posted: 09:22:17 03/25/03 Tue

On the Daily SHow last night, Jon said "we applaud you social activist for your documentary ... what's this? HE's being socially active ... BOO BOO MR. Social Activist, we don't like you're social activism."

Then he suggested a few things to complete the transformation of applause to booing back to applause:

1. Lose some weight (places different body on Mike's head)
2. Become more attractive (puts that Piano guy best actor head on top of his skinny body)

and then he shows the tear jerking speech that everyone applauds. God what a sissy. Just get up there and say the war is bullshit, because it is. Don't half-ass it in this "we are the world" montage of tears. And by the way, I haven't seen the Pianist, and I never will because of that asshole.

I thought Daniel Day-Lewis was unbelievable in Gangs of New York and it was blasphemous to fuck him like that.

Michael Moore's speech was interesting. I wonder if the other documentarians knew what he was doing? That part seemed a little tacky.

Finally, I wish I were Jack Nicholson. God that motherfucker is cool.

Look forward to seeing everyone in Hotlanta and hitting some bars and macking the lesbians.

Rock the Kasbah!
[> Subject: Michael Moore makes my school clap


Author:
Sarah
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Date Posted: 15:33:57 03/25/03 Tue

On Friday night Angela Davis (super famous activist from the 60s) spoke at my school and she got several standing ovations. one of these occurred as she read the open letter michael moore had sent schrub about him being fradulent and the war being shit. so everyone was clapping and saying amen at agnes scott. then, i am brough tback to the real world in watching the oscars when, after receiving an oscar, he is booed off stage. did hollywood have an identity crisis or something???
[> [> Subject: Make room in the soap box everybody, brotha raney needs to preach.


Author:
Rick
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Date Posted: 11:53:09 03/26/03 Wed

>did hollywood have an identity crisis or
>something???

Considering that actors and artists are being blacklisted if they appear unpatriotic (see: Dixie Chicks, Sean Penn) they have to pander to the masses. Most of their market is the lowest common denominator. This market already feels alienated by them considering most movie goers live paycheck to paycheck while hollywood is full of millionaires.

What happened at the Oscars really didn't suprise me. That whole industry is about money, and while I applaude the few who are morally strong enough to say what they feel is right and put their careers in jeopordy, most of them are just greedy sons o bitches.
[> Subject: I want to go to Agnes Scott!!


Author:
Jill
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Date Posted: 10:39:04 03/26/03 Wed

SARAH you are lucky because you live among people who are not in favor of the war, while I get to watch the war coverage hour after hour after hour with my two roommates who love Bush and love the war even more. They think it is okay to kill because we had so many people die in our country on 9/11 (which didnt have anything to do with Hussain, right?) Anyway, I am so sick of watching war coverage that I want to rip my eyes out! So I wish I was living with you right now!! anyways, see you soon

Jill
[> Subject: Re: Michael Morre(sp?) Makes Me laugh


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sarah
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Date Posted: 14:15:59 03/26/03 Wed

i'm not really shocked by the booing. i just think it is so ridiculous considering his whole movie is about how state violence manifests itself in violent kids. i mean he won an oscar for a documentary that challenges the whole military industrial complex. that is the point of the movie. then, when he says what is already said in his movie he gets booed. it is so funny that everyone is paralyzed by the fear that they will be blasted for not supporting the war. if everyone who really had questions aobut the war came out and said it, i think they woudl find lots of friednly company
[> Subject: I have an opinion


Author:
KeithO
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Date Posted: 16:25:03 03/28/03 Fri

Well, I would normally side with all you liberals (myself included) but recently I've become really good friends with a guy who is an ex-Marine. And he said something that I thought was true ... and that is:

The military over there watch television. So, they are witness to everything that transpires back home. And with the absolute need for orders to be followed, it's certainly not difficult to understand how undermining the war that may or may not be just (see all the fucked up things the Iraqis have already done) puts those in the military in a tough situation.

One thing that we can all agree on is this ain't 'Nam.
But on the flip side, it isn't WWII.

I think that when the sandstorm clears there will be documented evidence to support our claims. Let's not forget it's Saddam Hussein. I hate Bush too, but christ, he's not Saddam.

I think what Michael Moore did was a bit overzealous, but that is my criticism of him in general (in his books and movies). But, I think there is a bit of respect due to our military. Why? Because a lot of those kids are stupid. They have no future, they joined to do something, see the world, fuck hookers in Thailand, do drugs in Amsterdam, anything but go to war. And that's exactly where they are. And my personal stance on people who are in tough spots is to support them, in what means I see appropriate.

In this case, I will not be vocal against the war. I will not be vocal for it either. We are there for one reason. We all know why.

Is that wrong? Probably. But if we didn't have shit loads of money in this country, that supports a kick ass military that could beat any country (probably several at once), we wouldn't have the opportunities that we do.

If we continue to gain access to military bases around the world, which is the main point of this war (the oil too, but not directly) we control the distribution of our wealth throughout the world.

Will there be a holy war? Yes, but is this it? I don't think so. But eventually we'll see it. We promote products, the Middle East promotes faith. But they got some great products so we need 'em. Even if that means challenging their faith with MOABs and M-16s.

So, yeah it's really fucked up. But I do feel bad for all soldiers involved. That's a shitty situation.

Really looking forward to the 19th! Hope everyone is feeling well and looking good!

Love
Keith
[> [> Subject: Juxtoposition


Author:
sarah
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Date Posted: 08:37:10 03/30/03 Sun

How interesting is it to watch the NCAA tournament right now. On one hand you have these 18-22 year olds playing basketball and fighting to stay in the tournament. then at half time you have updates on a whole different class of 18-22 year olds that are fighting in Iraq. it is just so strange to me, and at the same time so sad. i agree with keith that you have to support the kids that are there even if you disagree with the leadership that put them there, or for that matter, if you disagree with the military in general (it is classist, racist, sexist, heterosexist...pretty much a mirror of everything fucked up in our society). it is really important to separate administration from the actual people in the military. we all know that commanders in chief don't usually have huge records of combat experience. one of the signs i saw at an anti-war protest said "support our troops, bring them home." i guess that sort of sums up the ways in which you can be critical of the war while still supporting the people giving their lives to fight.


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