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Date Posted: 12:31:24 12/17/02 Tue
Author: David
Subject: Re: Cross Training Ringsports
In reply to: Mark 's message, "Re: Cross Training Ringsports" on 22:34:10 12/16/02 Mon

Hi Ann,

best way I've heard it described is that the French program fits nicely within the Mondio program. (I'm sure I'm going to take some flak for that).

As Michael Ellis pointed out at the seminar, "Why wouldn't you show all this environmental stuff to your dog as a puppy? No matter what your sport he can only benefit from the exposure."

Of course, you would want to train to ensure that your dog doesn't have any stick issues that could come back and haunt you later.

Most of the people in our club cross-train both.

I would be curious to hear from Mark how easily his friend's dogs made the switch from French to Mondio and did it produce a stronger dog than one trained solely in Mondioring.

Regards,

David

>>How many handlers train their dog(s) for both Mondio
>>and French Ringsports? Anyone have comments,
>>advantage or disadvantages, of doing this.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ann
>
>The answer I received when I asked two friends of mine
>who are also fr/mr competitors and judges was that
>they use FR as the foundation for MR.
>
>One thing if you were considering both sports (IMO) is
>that I would NOT teach the backward heel per se. In
>Mondio that could be a huge problem on the Defense.
>You could either teach your dog to circle you, or
>simply heel as normal. It may not look as pretty, but
>it is not going to lose you any points unless your dog
>is slow to bite.
>
>Certainly you could in fact teach the backward heel..
>but i have found that my friends in france who compete
>at the world ch. level have concentrated almost solely
>on MR after attaining the FR 3, and had to retrain for
>the defense.
>
>It goes w/o saying that you have to have a very
>superior retrieve in MR, whereas you could in essence
>skate by in FR with just knowing the sock ball, etc.
>
>In our club we train for both. We do one face attack
>FR style, then maybe one with bottles, etc. We do the
>FR Defense and also do a Mondio type defense. So
>basically the dog is trained under the same basics,
>just with some environmental additions and the like...
>
>I wont ramble on any more ... lol I will step back
>and let others answer as well.. :)
>
>-Mark

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