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Subject: That's good, make stuff up, Pam LOL Author: Shannie [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 22:58:52 10/31/02 Thu In reply to: Pam 's message, "Re: What exactly makes a person a hick????" on 22:49:51 10/31/02 Thu Considering you and I haven't had a civil conversation in what, 18 months?..you sure presume to know so much about my current job/education/disability situation, don't you? Are you psychic or something? LOL Who said my additional education is completed? How do you presume to know what goes on in my life and what I'm completed or not completed? God, you're almost hilarious, Pam. How do you know I'm not working now? Do you make it a habit of insulting people who are on disability? How is that funny? Do you live in my body? Are you my doctor? Is my income coming out of your pocket? How does any of this apply to you at all? Why does any of it matter to you? Do you just sit there, spending your time dreaming up things about my life and what I do or don't do? I surely don't give your life or what you're doing with it a passing thought. Guess this is just what some haggered old housewives do for fun?! :-) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: That's good, make stuff up, Pam LOL Author: Pam [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:12:18 10/31/02 Thu BTW, it's haggard, not haggered. Let me see...how do I know anything about your education? When we WERE talking, you were taking the distance education classes to get certified in another part of the nursing field (can't remember what it's called, being the health and safety coordinator at a business). You even posted on DP about finishing the course and getting the job, you said publicly that you HAD to get a job or your payments would be cut off, and you were having conniptions because the job was too far away for you to drive home and give Beejoo medicine. If you're working now, you're either working out of the home, or you have a Palm that you tote around with you to post on The Mantel and check in here 8 times a day. And no, I don't make a habit of insulting people on disability. Only those that feel the need to insult me.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Guess you could use some Ginko, for memory Author: Shannie [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:32:03 10/31/02 Thu Let's see now, Pam......the time I was freaking out about taking a job so far away from home, and leaving BeeJoo at home all day.....was a casual job that I took at a clinic, so that I could maintain my union seniority. Because I was on disability, any earnings I made would be reported and they would be deducted from my disability earnings. I was still doing my schooling then at the same time. I NEVER ONCE said I had to take the job or my disability payments would be cut off. Jesus woman, if you're going to pull things out of your ass, at least get them half right. With the education I have, I would no longer be working as a unionized employee (like in a hospital or public health).....but unionized employees get paid very very well, due to a substantial raise that Alberta Nurses got 2 years ago, with the final increase coming into effect Aug 1, 2002. If a certain amount of time elapses between nursing practice in a unionized position, you have to start at the bottom of the pay scale, should you ever take a unionized position. For me, that would mean going down by $8 an hour, and the years of pay seniority I accrued, would be lost....so I consulted with the provincial union here (as I'd last worked in BC, different union), and they advised me to get a casual position prior to July 1, 2000 so that I'd be covered. Thus, that is why I took the job you're referring to. Why don't you go back into your archives and find what I posted, so you can see how wrong you are. It was at the end of June 2000. If you are in any way implying or insinuating that I'm some scammer who's trying to get a free ride, think again. People don't stay on disability without having undergone several vigorous and thorough medical assessments by disability board surgeons, medical board adjudicators and physicians....and it's most certainly NOT based on subjective "complaints".....it must be based on sound, substantiated diagnostic proof (MRI, CT scan, injury management assessments, functional capacity assessments), etc. Until you have walked a mile in my shoes, just shut the fuck up.

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Guess you could use some Ginko, for memory Author: Pam [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:46:10 10/31/02 Thu So the Canadian Government made a unilateral exception for disability requirements in your case? In the US, unless a person is rated at 100% disability, they are REQUIRED to get training that will enable them to eventually return to the work force. We discussed US and Canadian disability similarities on the telephone more than once, including the night you were hysterical because one of your papers had been eaten by your computer, and if it wasn't turned in, it would drop your average below the required level, and your checks would STOP.In fact, I was surprised that the disability rules in Canada were even more strict than they are here. So don't talk about MY memory, looks like you're the one that's been eating catnip instead of Ginkgo.

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Guess you could use some Ginko, for memory Author: Shannie [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:59:08 10/31/02 Thu Pam, you are totally and completely making things up here. I recall freaking out about a paper I was writing being late...but only because it was a final paper and I had a deadline to hand it in by. I NEVER FRICKIN SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MARKS or having to maintain a certain level of marks. I have had nothing but great marks in all of my courses.....You are making total shit up. Why are you doing this? What the fuck are you making up shit about me having freaked out about marks and cheques stopping? That is pure and utter bullshit. But regardless, what is your point here? What is the point you're trying to make? In Canada, a person is not 100% disabled (under the kind of disability I'm on) unless you can never work again in your life....and we're talking being a quadraplegic, major brain injury, etc. You are, once again, talking out of your ass and thinking you know all about how things work here. NOw what does this all have to do with your previous posts, about me working/not working, etc? I am most certainly not about to get into the details of my situation with the likes of you. You go ahead and spew more bullshit if it makes you feel like the big person that you are. I don't even know what your motivation is....or the point you're trying to make. You're a bitch, Pam......and though I think little of you, I never thought you'd stoop so low as to go making up shit that I supposedly said to you in the past, to make me look bad. You are nothing but an outright liar...and you have a real evil streak.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Guess you could use some Ginko, for memory Author: Pam [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:13:41 11/01/02 Fri I never said you DIDN'T have great marks, now did I? Let me refresh your memory again...you were working on a paper that counted for a large percentage of your final grade, a very LONG paper (thirty pages, I think), and you had almost finished it when your computer crashed. You hadn't saved it since the 11th page, and you were freaking out that you wouldn't be able to redo the whole paper before the deadline in the morning, and if the paper wasn't turned in on time you'd get a failing grade on it, which would drop your average too low. You finally got in touch with the instructor and told her what had happened and she extended your deadline. I specifically asked you at an earlier point why you'd decided to take this particular course, and you told me that at the time, it was the only nursing field job that you could train for that didn't require a lot of physical activity that would strain your back. You weren't looking forward to doing this type of work because there wasn't any real medical contact with patients, but you were required to re-train in order to continue receiving payments. The 100% disability rule is the same in the US (thank you for clarifying that it works the same way in Canada), therefore, unless you are 100% disabled, you HAVE to be re-trained for another type of work. You never claimed to be at 100%, therefore you fall under the same guidelines concerning re-training, so how am I lying? I said that unless a person is 100% disabled, a recipient has to be trained for another job so they can re-enter the workforce. Where's the untruth in that?

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Guess you could use some Ginko, for memory Author: Shannie [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:42:23 11/01/02 Fri Pam, the way you worded it, was like I was just skating on thin ice, marks-wise..and that if I couldn't finish this paper (due to having lost it in my computer, because I used shitty Micrsoft WOrks, which doesn't have an auto-save feature), I would fail, therefore I'd not continue to receive compensation... The way you worded it was like all I cared about was CHECKS...like I'm only about money. I was freaking out that night because 22 pages of a paper I'd worked really hard on, were gone...and you and I talked on the phone because you were trying to help me "find it" on my computer. I was freaking out more because this paper was technically due that night at midnight..and it would have been done, had I not lost it and had to start all over (I don't make rough drafts when I write a paper...I just start writing, with a very basic outline on paper....so to rewrite, I have to really start all over). I was freaking out because all my hard work was for nothing. I had only one page left to type, plus my references. I was "that close" and it was all gone. I was upset not because of the stinkin' money. You seem to be making me out to be some money-grabbing scammer who just keeps taking free checks for as long as I can get away with it. I have never had to explain myself to anyone about this stuff, and it's highly offensive because being off like this has been very humiliating and humbling and discouraging......it's a sore subject with me. I was at the height of my career when I hurt my back and I've worked since I was 15 years old (real job....prior to that, I babysat weekly as well was a candy striper. In college, I worked part time in the college library to help pay my tuition). It is very embarassing to have to tell someone you meet (new date) or a potential employer or a new friend that you've been off work with an injury because they look at you and you "look just fine"...no limbs missing, no disfigurements. It makes me feel stupid, though I know it shouldn't but it does because I shouldn't be this age with back problems such as these..but there are people worse off so I am still thankful. I get very defensive when you make insinuations (or have made)...about my nursing abilities, my employment status, my disability status...becuz it seems obvious to me that you're trying to make me look like a loser. You're taking things I told you in confidence, long ago, when we were friends, and you're twisting them around and putting a dirty spin on them, however subtle, to upset me and make me look bad. If anything, I guess you're teaching me that you can just never trust anybody online. You and I used to be very close. You confided in me about all kinds of things, of a personal nature, and I the same. You used to say we were like sisters. Now you are wanting to stir up shit again (the Ari comment started it, it was uncalled for, you knew I'd react), and you're twisting my words around, when I have no way of proving otherwise (because I checked in the archives but they don't go back to 2000). This subject is now dropped on my end. If you want to keep trying to hit me below the belt, go ahead. Of all the people who've ever really known me, you were one...probably knew me best, and you also know just what to say to hurt me.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Guess you could use some Ginko, for memory Author: Pam [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:04:36 11/01/02 Fri Okay, let me try to explain something here. First, I have NEVER said one negative thing about your nursing abilities! I think everyone I have talked to will tell you that I have always admired your dedication to health care! I was not implying that the only reason you were taking classes was to keep the check coming. I just meant that it was part of the requirements for getting disability. I'm truly sorry if you feel that mentioning your computer crashing was divulging personal info. I didn't think it was offensive, because not too long after that, you posted on the board about staying up all night to finish another paper that was due the next day, which you had procrastinated doing. I didn't think this was any different. I wasn't singling YOU out in my reply to Ari, others were also being pretty damn tacky to him, some even worse than what I thought you had been. I took your comment about burlap to be another reference to my "hickdom" to go along with the previous tractor comments and suggestions that I go chew on a piece of straw. You talk about how we were so close at one time, and how I've hurt you with my comments, but it never occurs to you that it might be hurtful to be called a country hick? When we were friends, you seemed to think this hick was pretty darn intelligent and funny, now I'm just a dumb, backwater housewife?