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Subject: I got there first, Mark Author: JeffF [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 07:38:55 07/08/02 Mon In reply to: JeffF 's message, "Happy fourthe" on 09:18:51 07/03/02 Wed I don't believe in blind obediance to any leader. Presidents, Senators, Congressman are all supposed to work for the people, not the other way around. I said in the original message that there is a difference between patriotism and blind patriotism and that people should always feel free to criticize the government and it's leaders. On this point, I think you and I are in fairly complete agreement. We might not agree on which policies to criticize, but that's not the point. It's just good to live in a country where we are even allowed to have these debates. There are still far too many countries in the world where you can get arrested for expressing your opininon either verbally or in writing. And KJ, it's true that Mark has some favorite subjects that he can post about in various moods and styles and words, but I think he's somewhat better at staying on one point than he was on DP. He's even managed to go several threads without blaming all of the world's problems on Laura Schlessinger! :-) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Laura Schlessinger Author: Clint1 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:50:26 07/08/02 Mon I really like her. She is a up font women I respect. Need to find a wife as her...Happy 4th already passed, but enjoy the freedom..

[> [> [> Subject: Clint! Author: JeffF [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:17:15 07/09/02 Tue Good to see you! Hope you had a great 4th. As for freedom, enjoying it is great, but the other side is to make sure not to take it for granted. There are so many people in the world who would love to be as free as us. I hope after 09/11 that people at the very least take the time to vote.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Hello JeffF and Mark7.. Author: Clint1 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:32:34 07/10/02 Wed Yes, I had a wonderful 4th, just a lot of memories from my previous military and Government experience I think about. Family members who gave there life and call to duty. I have been able to look at the sacrifices they made as for the American freedom and it sooths me. No, 9/11 will be here for a while, and it will get nastier before it gets better, some of these Muslim countries are going to wake up to the fact that democracy is a way better life, it will take years yet to come, but I believe the end results will come forth for a better world. Now we need to combat drugs with education, help for the addicted and school to get them on their feet for a working class citizen. So, hope all have a remaining nice year and better ones yet to arrive..

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Yes, God Save America Author: Mark7 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:17:12 07/11/02 Thu Only problem is, America will get worse before it has a chance to get better. We cannot get better before 2004 unless we manage to impeach the idiot. We are a country in a deep recession, at war without end, and led by a retard! God Save America - I will pray for all American men and women in uniform. It has to be a horrible faith to be lead in war by an idiot who has no problem sending others in harms way, while he himself, with the help of his dady has managed to stay safe from the slaughter of 50,000 others in his generation.

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Drugs Author: JeffF [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:45:31 07/11/02 Thu I agree, Clint. We need education and help for the addicted in the war against drugs. The war has not been fought sensibly. We focus too much on the supply side, not the demand. I agree that we need to do everything we can to help addicts recover and lead productive lives. You can never win the war against drugs by focusing solely on drug producing nations. A couple of other points. I think there are a number of people in Muslim countries, especially those who have been to college here who know that Democracy is a better way of life. The trouble is that the majority of Arab countries are dictatorships where people are not allowed to express this opinion too openly if it threatens the top rulers. It takes a lot of courage in most of the Arab countries to speak out for human rights. And a quick word of thanks, Clint for your service to the nation. Especially after 09/11, it's important to thank people.

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Drugs Author: Mark7 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:35:20 07/12/02 Fri Just like with drinking or sex, puritanism is a social perril. You cannot save people from themselves. I think most drugs should be legal and the proceeds taxed so programs can be funded for treatment. But there is too much money in keeping drugs illegal, so I doubt it will happen. By the way, I read that Afganistan is going to have a bumper crop of poppy this year, with the Taliban ousted. Good job Dumbaya! Can't find Osama, but you can sure shoot million dollar missiles at cammels!

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Drugs Author: JeffF [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:23:06 07/12/02 Fri Of course, you can save people from themselves. You just can't do it by arresting people. That's what treatment is - saving people from their own addictions/habits. We also need to increase educational programs. Maybe have some recovering addicts speak at all schools. People who have been there can sometimes talk other people out of starting.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Laura Schlessinger Author: Mark7 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:48:24 07/10/02 Wed Wish you one wife just like her. One that f*cked for money in her youth and preaches abstinence at menopause.