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Subject: Re: So what is morality? Author: Pam [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 21:00:38 07/20/01 Fri In reply to: Mark7 's message, "So what is morality?" on 20:42:47 07/20/01 Fri To me, morality is simple. It's a matter of not doing things to others that you don't want to have happen to you or your loved ones. If you don't want someone coming into your house and stealing your stereo, then we is it okay for you to do the same to someone else? If you don't want to hear a guy call your mother, sister or daughter a worthless bitch, then don't do it yourself. Morality is just a basic tenet says not to cause deliberate mental or physical suffering to others. I can kind of see what you're questioning, the fact that if Bob feels hitting your wife is wrong, that is his morals. But if Phil thinks it's fine to knock the ol' lady around, then obviously his morals are different, so who is right? I'd say that since Phil's wife probably doesn't agree with Phil's behavior that Phil is wrong. If the majority of the people (regardless of religion or lack thereof) think an activity is wrong, then it's probably amoral. Once again, there are tribes with no religion of any sort, no laws, no punishments for breaking the law (since it rarely happens), and they just "know" that you shouldn't steal your neighbor's goat. Pam [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> Subject: steal your neighbor's goat? Author: Mark7 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:28:56 07/20/01 Fri What about having sex with your neighbor's goat, when the goat is willing? Apparently, humanity differs considerably on that question. American Indians had no problem with homosexuality, and they were not atheists. Japanese have no problem with prostitution, and they were not atheists either. Lots of people have no problem with killing humans outside the group or religion. Killing a human who was not part of your tribe would be kosher many parts around the world. I think morality is a code one lives by, for some, like you or me, it comes from the inside, but for many others it comes from the outside, it is taught. Lots of people in the US say, and believe the US is the richest country on earth, yet they never set foot outside the county. How would they know? They heard that on TV. Others think Palestinians are all born mentally derainged terrorists. They never ever talked with a Palestinian, and with the grace of CNN and NBC, never saw a Palestinian mother crying for her 12 year old shoot by Israelis. Most Americans only saw on TV the Israeli 12 year old killed by Palestinians. So they believe it is moral to bankroll Israel in ethnically clensing Palestine of Palestinians with American guns and amo, and can't figure why Arabs hate us. Most people say that killing is wrong, yet they see nothing immoral in joining the army and putting an oath to kill whomever their commander tells them. Even more, they say it is not terrorism to bomb civilians from 30000 feet, but it would be wrong to shoot at 200 feet with a rifle and hit a few civilians. Laura Schlessinger believes any kind of sex is immoral, except the one she had with her boss while married to another. Very strange. If there is one thing that may make me doubt morality comes from God, it is the variety of morals we all have. All these people are sincere in their moral belief. They see no contradiction.