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Subject: Donnie Rose


Author:
Bobby
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2004, 23:44:49

Does anyone know how Donnie Rose died?

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
AL SLAMMER
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Date Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2004, 10:15:00



Yup - he died on the streets of San Fransisco of AIDS related illness during the winter of 1999. After he had
broken up a long standing marriage of somebody on the scene... Not realted to his death, but he was a hustler and he died in the usual pointless way.
Very sad, nice kid.


>Does anyone know how Donnie Rose died?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Rob Brooks / former drummer of mOral SeX (fukkin' bummed)
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Date Posted: Sun, Dec 07 2008, 20:00:44

Hey Al - yeah I finally saw the movie "What We Do Is Secret" now that it's on DVD - today on Dec. 7 the anniversary of Darby's death - and I saw In Memory of Donnie Rose - and just was confused - I'm very saddened but was also dissapointed that Drew Blood's name wasn't in the 'thanks to' credits - there was a guy named Drew Black - maybe they had Drew's name wrong? I dunno...anyway - I wish I had stayed in touch with Donnie after the demise of Death Patrol...take care...

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
JOHN (re: Drew Blood)
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Date Posted: Thu, Jan 01 2009, 14:55:48

You should re-read the credits. They list Drew Black followed by DJ Bonebreak followed by Drew Blood. I thought to myself that it was interesting that they thank Drew Blood (who has been dead 10 years rather than RIP like they had with Donnie Rose. Damn, I missed Drew this year, thought about his christmas stick. And I am totally sad to read about Donnie. I mean, SAD. My mood today has gone on a total bummed level. Nice guy.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Drew Blood


Author:
John
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Date Posted: Sun, Jan 04 2009, 16:24:22

Yeah, this has had me thinking about all of the people from that period. Drew (with his dreads and doo rags), his chap books (of which I have most all in a box in a storage unit in Riverside (though I no longer live in Riverside and would not be able to find the box if my life depended on it), his obsession with Joy Division, the Stones, Patti Smith, Gun Club, Germs, ad infinitum; the Jurupa House off Riverside Place, Stacy, Miss P, Miss Timmy, Renee (Gade) who died on her way back from the Queen concert, and of course Donnie, about whom the original thread started, and the time we watched porn, the time we (Donnie, Drew, P, and I) went to see Exene at the UC Riverside, the time Donnie and I watched porn, the time we (Donnie, Drew, P and I) went to see the Bowie concert at Dodger Stadium and he was completely drunk and disorderly from the bottle he bought in Chinatown en route, etc. Damn, he was only 18 when Darby died after being "with" him for 5 years. I have been in a sad slump for days now. Dead from AIDS! I would understand the overdose, as he shot up, but I didn't know about the HIV. Could have been related, I guess. Sad.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
John
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Date Posted: Thu, Jan 01 2009, 15:18:28

AiDS-related death of Donnie Rose? hmm.
According to Jenny Lens on the Alice Bag blog, he overdosed. It can be observed at alicebag (dot) blogspot (dot) com (slash) 2005 (slash) 12 (slash) germs-2005 (dot) html

who knows the truth?
I tried to google california public health records and couldn't locate an exact site from which I could glean any accurate information. Help, please.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Gerber (disgusted)
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Date Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2011, 19:56:51

so much hate mail from nonbelievers
donnie od
sad

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
ivelostmyself
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Date Posted: Tue, Nov 29 2011, 18:54:52

I read somewhere you are writing a book... some news about it?

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Michelle Bell (sad)
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Date Posted: Wed, Feb 22 2012, 8:45:50

I heard Gerber od'd from her own narcissism and oxycontin abuse. Oh well, in the end no one cared about her anyway.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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laughingmyassoff
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Date Posted: Thu, Feb 23 2012, 17:03:57

gosh, it has been very long time since I laughed so much in the web.... this forum owns!

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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Dagon1965
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Date Posted: Mon, Nov 29 2004, 19:07:04


Thanks for sharing how donnie rose died. i had read darby crash book and was wondering how donnie had died. now i know.
I while back i posted a letter on this site asking if anyone knew what Gerber,(michelle bell) was up these days? just curious. thanks great site by the way.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
christine
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Date Posted: Wed, Jun 22 2005, 12:36:39

>Does anyone know where to find a picture of Michelle (Gerber)?

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 29 2006, 14:40:15

Yes, there's lots of pictures of Gerber in the book "Lexicon Devil: The Fast Times and Short Life of Darby Crash and the Germs" by Brendan Mullen with Don Bolles and Adam Parfrey.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 29 2006, 14:47:32

By the way, the book "Lexicon Devil" is being made into a movie..I wish they would ask those of us who knew Jan Paul Beahm and Donnie Rose what we think about Darby Crash being a child molester..I was barely 13 and Donnie was six months older when Darby started to molest him--isn't there something, something so anti-punk, about that?
Even those of us participating in the "Hollywood Punk Scene" would find that repugnant.
Of course, I was so young, and didn't know how to protect Donnie.
The same chapter was being written in my life, albeit not with Darby Crash.
Any remarks, folks? I'm not on a rant--Darby's dead, and so is Donnie--just stating the facts.

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
mushy
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 14 2004, 22:30:21

who is donnie rose?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 29 2006, 14:36:50

If, as I believe you are, a true old friend of Donald Martin Rose b 3/9/64--you must know me.
Nicki Thomas, formerly of Riverside.
Please contact me...

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Sheena Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 29 2006, 16:42:18

Go Away.

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
edi
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Date Posted: Sun, Dec 26 2004, 17:30:03

thank you for posting this somewhere.

i have been trying to find out for a long time.

donnie rose was one of my best friends from the old scene. this morning i had this completely bizarre dream that i was driving & he & reggie mental were hitchhiking, i picked them up & they both had some horrible illness which was making parts of their hands fall off. it wasnt leprosy; it was all completely smooth & healed, just fingers & a whole hand were no longer there.

before that i dreamed that we all had to leave this earth & move somewhere beneath it, whether beneath the planet or beneath the ground i do not know but--

can someone tell me where donnie rose is buried.

can someone tell me if reggie mental, who i believe --this is the story i know-- killed someone else in jail right before he was going to be paroled to exene, to work in the shop she had----- did reggie mental get the death penalty?? what has happened.

i still have a pair of yellow & black checked sunglasses he gave me w/o lenses right after he hitchhiked to l.a. w/ elvis costello.

true.

i would be an old jr high friend of donnie rose, except i am from l.a. & skipped a million grades. he gave me my germs burn. it must have been one of the first 10.

i was lost to academia for a while, i am afraid. then i took care of my mother, who was a psychoanalyst that used to drive me to the masque & the whisky in her creme colored cadillac, when she had cancer & subsequently died.

right now i am trying to make a website about all of the punks, or even people i once knew, who have died or are lost. it is gruellingly painful.

i made websites for a living, at least now i can make one that has some meaning.

&, as an aside, did dee cochran die?? does anyone know. did she marry black randy?? i dont know why i think this, but i do know someone told me she was dead.

is there anyone else dead i have missed. for i have missed them all in my way.

my tired best to you-----

edi, completely recognizable to this day (just think of theda bara crossed w/ dolly parton, wearing little kids clothes due to lifelong anorexic obsession that does not work too well.....)

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 29 2006, 16:45:38

Edi,
Please try to contact me.
hipnick@emerytelcom.net

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Rob Brooks - aka Robby Reverb
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Date Posted: Sun, Dec 07 2008, 20:09:43

Hi - that's a good idea to put some info together about punks who have passed - I was a drummer in 1981 for bands mOral SeX & Death Patrol (both from Riverside Cali) - Donnie Rose was in Death Patrol - he died from AIDS in 1999...Drew Blood, who wrote a few self-published Germs 'chap-books' died of AIDS in 1997 - he was the lead singer & incredible poet / lyricist of mOral SeX...those were great days - your Mom's cadillac reminds me of the Gold Lincoln Cadillac I drove while in those punk bands...Good luck with your project & e-mail me if you'd like any help, pics, etc...

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
RA
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Date Posted: Mon, Dec 27 2004, 10:25:53

black randy is dead

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
edi
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Date Posted: Mon, Dec 27 2004, 13:11:25

i know.

he died a million years ago.

tomata is dead, claude bessy is dead, jeffrey lea pierce is dead, dee cochran is dead (??), gorilla rose is dead, a lot more people are dead, i know who they are but i have had this f'ing flu for so long (6 weeks) that i cannot think.

are there any other people dead that i do not know about.

my oldest boyfriend was a pbj (promiscuous bisexual junkie) who is apparently still -alive- (this shocks everyone that knew him) who was friends w/ a variety of people who are now dead (andy wilf, if anyone remembers. milk in one hand, vodka in the other. bleeding ulcer. dead 20 years easy), one of whom was black randy, who he used to say was totally out of control.

oh randy, totally out of control.

nobody is totally out of control any more. or if they are, they arent interesting.

any more confirmed kills out there.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
edi, redux
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Date Posted: Mon, Dec 27 2004, 13:12:49

i forgot to say rik l. rik is dead.

i remember being at work the day i found out he was dead & just staring into space.

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
ra
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Date Posted: Mon, Dec 27 2004, 13:24:19

in the obviously category, craig lee

I can't believe I'm not dead, whew, what a time, and I didn't slow down much!

I still party some, but no speedballing to death's door while on tons of acid, just the occasional adult beverage

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
RA
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Date Posted: Mon, Dec 27 2004, 14:58:27

El Duce is dead, too.

He got drunk and walked in front of a moving train, duh!

True Story!

Edi, do I know you from way back when? You are the only one here who posts that seems to have really been there.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
edi
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Date Posted: Mon, Dec 27 2004, 17:09:48

probably.

if you email me, i will send you a picture or you could say who you are if you dont want to say it here.

i was always just edi, but i never talked much.

i knew everybody, then in mid 79 i ran off w/ someone else that everyone knows & who knew everybody (darby once tried to convince him to drive around w/ him & pick up mexican boys) & now everybody hates, & they hate him so much that i dont want to post his name. i mean, there are long diatribes about how hateful he is all over the internet!!

a couple of years ago i ran into tequila & told her who i had been married to & she just winced.

but, oh heavens, he wasnt like that then. he would not have dared to be like that around me, i dont think. i would not have stood for it at any rate, although i stood for plenty else, his schizophrenic mother, every vampire movie on earth, on & on. but it was all petty or not purposeful.....

sad, sad.

if you email me, i shall send you a picture. i only have 1 left & i was a model, of all things. my exhusband kept virtually everything i owned.

do you know what happened to gary moss?? is he really a carpenter??

gary moss & donnie rose were close, close friends of mine. i remember a conversation i had w/ gary moss, who did no drugs at all then (neither did i) telling me we had to figure out a way to get donnie to go back to school. i was trying to figure out a way to get him into jr college. he was 14.

i was just little & quiet. but nearly everyone remembers me when they see me. i look the same but a litle older. not as older as i should, which i suppose i could put down to my not doing a lot of drugs (then), but which really comes down to genetics.

i could also tell my other heartbreaking story, which is that while i did not do drugs i did drink & way too much (fall asleep standing up on some strangers back whilst wearing spike heels (me, not the stranger)) & i remember being at a party & donnie & i think darby were writing all over me w/ magic marker & i had no ride home & it was 3 in the morning at least & i was 14 & then animal x drove me home & he did not even -try- anything. i was soooo impressed.

the next week i decided to stop drinking & i told darby that & i told him i did not like losing control so much, &, you know, i skipped a lot of grades, i am reasonably bright & i remember darby looking & me & paying A LOT of attention to this thought. alcohol=NO control. you remember how much darby was into control. not as much as brendan said, but yeah, some.

& very soon thereafter i disappeared w/ the abovenoted & i have always felt guilty about that. as i was neither infatuated w/ darby nor an enabler of darby & i was, indeed, really close to donnie rose (i met him the first day he came up from riverside, setting lit cigarettes into his hair), i perhaps would have had a teeny tiny bit of influence, oh, i dont know. i miss these people a lot.

for all this time i have been trying to write this into a memoir or something, w/ quite a bit of encouragement, but it lays on me way too heavy-- more my family than anyone i have ever known, these people, except my mother (who has also died).

it is too hard. i decided to make the website, just to be doing something & now here i am writing these things out.

my best to you-----

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 29 2006, 16:50:50

I was in junior high with Gary Moss "Ryan" and Donnie Rose.
Did you know Bill Bartell and Bryan Knox? Renee'? Penny Perch?
Jackie Rose?
Mike Siegfried? Ralph Torres?

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Thu, Mar 30 2006, 18:58:50

Really, I was there in Riverside..I feel odd putting this all out on the Internet. I would imagine that anyone who was really 'there' would know Donnie's parents' home address. (Wouldn't they?) I am not trying to impress anyone, I only want the world to know that at one time, "Donnie Rose the Hustler" was Donnie the virgin, Donnie the beaten, Donnie the tender boy.
He was my first love and I was his.
There's no triumph in that, for we lost each other.

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
RA
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Date Posted: Tue, Dec 28 2004, 13:10:03

I emailed you, hope you got it.

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
puzzled panther
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2006, 0:44:57

thats an interesting read there edi

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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mike
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2006, 15:44:57

donnie rose was the original drummer for the germs? or was that dhonna ria or something like that. Or was donnie rose darby's fag?

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Sat, Apr 01 2006, 8:21:51

Donnie was not Darby's fag. "Boy toy" isn't much prettier, but closer to the truth. He was my 12- and thirteen year-old boyfriend
He was a boy and hustler... and Jan (Darby) would try to groom Don for sex by promising him things like that. ("Yeah, I'll make you a star Just do this little thing.." Anyone here hear that cliche, EVER?)
12 year olds with no money and no home DO sometimes let people take advantage of them for survival's sake.
Donnie, in spite of how many great drumsticks I gave him, would've had a hard time hitting "the proverbial side of the barn." [Looking for Donna as drummer, you'd go farther with Pat Smear filling in.)
Not that Darby didn't try many times to get grabby and smoochy with Donnie--and had a prosecutable sexual relationship with him in the front of a lot of credible people and of course, the inimitable honesty of the camera.Why so many people thought it was okay..OKAY? I don't know. I have my resonsiblity too. I was the same age.

I have sincere interest in seeing the whole story come out, mainly for Donnie Rose, Jacquie Rose and the other people who love/loved him.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Sat, Apr 01 2006, 8:23:42

If it matters, I am a female of pretty mainstream predilections.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Sat, Apr 01 2006, 11:50:13

I mean to say, I was 12 or 1/2 and Donnie's girlfriend.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Colin
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2007, 12:36:20

Hi, been into the germs since 88, (blaime decline)
the Bags site is cool;insiteful that is. Alice Bag has a better handle on what is right: breaking down barriers w/ the audience, while Darby was into manipulation...Your account might not make it into the movie, heh.
I am nothing like Darby Crash, attitude of gratitude.
peace

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Mike
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Date Posted: Sat, Apr 01 2006, 12:20:47

Donnie was Darb's butt buddy basically from what i've read that you've posted Nicki. Darby started molesting him at like 14 or 13, and probably fucked him up the ass alot.

I say you should have stepped in to protect donnie, if darby wanted to be a major queero, let have been one with a person his own age.

And PS, Any pictures of this Donnie guy? I have yet to see him..

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Sat, Apr 01 2006, 20:10:01

Yeah, I have pictures of Donnie. He's clothed, except for when we when were swimming together. There's also more than one in the 'Lexicon Devil' book. I agree, I should've protected him--I was 6 months younger, and his girl, so maybe he "should've" protected me? Hard to say at this point.
I think the term "butt buddies" complies consensuality of a sense that I have a hard time crediting between two guys at such different ages and levels of influence. I also am not in the slightest interested in your definition of "alot". I'm not unbiased, though!
N

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Sat, Apr 01 2006, 21:53:03

Try message thread Donald Martin Rose 3-19-64-1999

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Sun, Apr 02 2006, 13:15:32

I realize that I responded to your postings, and no disrespect meant, but I don't think that I want to do so any longer. Our interests are markedly different, and I cared for Don as much as he cared for me. I have it in his albeit barely functional handwriting and our photographs, and the memories of so many friends. If friends of Donnie wish to see old photos, they can reach me. If they can help me pay my respects to him or his Mother, I would also appreciate that. Donnie was so much more than the victimization/characterization/Manimalism that Jan Darby User Beahm represented.
Peace. (Although I realize that word is incredibly anti-punk, I'm a little wiser now. Hopefully.)

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Jason
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Date Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 20:07:24

Donnie and Darby had a sexual encounter at Darby's mom's house. Donnie felt bad and told Darby that he was sorry but he was too heterosexual to be gay with Darby. Granted, I wasn't there, but that is Donnie's story from his own mouth.

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Mike
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Date Posted: Sun, Apr 02 2006, 6:43:31

I tried looking up this donald martin rose guy in findagrave.com

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Nicki Thomas
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Date Posted: Sun, Apr 02 2006, 12:00:53

And?

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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Mike
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Date Posted: Mon, Apr 03 2006, 12:22:53

And i could not find him....

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Nicole
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Date Posted: Tue, Apr 04 2006, 10:31:14

His dob was 3-9-64. He died 1999. He was born in Riverside. He died in San Francisco.
The California public health records tell the rest.

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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Alex
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Date Posted: Tue, Apr 04 2006, 14:07:57

Ah yes, I found an entry on him in the california public health records.

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Puzzled Panther
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Date Posted: Thu, May 04 2006, 9:42:22

If you would like to see a pic of Donnie Rose here is a link

http://www.alicebag.com/donnierose.html

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[> [> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Sean
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Date Posted: Thu, May 04 2006, 17:39:23

theres one in lexicon devil with his dick hangin out

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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alex
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Date Posted: Fri, May 05 2006, 15:29:20

i cant help but admit it, donnie rose fuckin freaks me out

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


Author:
Poly Grad
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Date Posted: Sun, May 07 2006, 14:01:30

Nicki, are you Brian's little sister?

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[> Subject: Re: Donnie Rose


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Billy Druid
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Date Posted: Sun, Jun 11 2006, 3:13:18

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