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>This is the first I heard of a proposed new landfill >across the river from the existing one. Does anyone >have factual information on it? > > >>We are all intelligent enough to believe what we want >>and make our own decisions.......hopefully based on >>fact and not conjecture (a little more research may be >>in order to find out what really stopped the acid rock >>dumping in Indiana County). >> >> >>>If I put trash out on my curb and it ends up in my >>>backyard that is one thing. When Bruce Springsteen >and >>>Rudolf Guiliani put trash out on their curb and it >>>ends up in my backyard, that is a completely >different >>>matter. >>> >>>Remember the acid rock controversy in Indiana county >>>last year? That was stopped dead in its tracks. Not >by >>>cooperation, or by "having a voice at the table", >that >>>was stopped by a bunch of angry locals just saying >>>"NO!". >>> >>>Look at Paint Creek, Shade Creek, Blacklick Creek, >the >>>Little Conemaugh...that smelly orange water isn't the >>>result of protests and opposition. That is the result >>>of cooperation. >>> >>>What more can be lost? As it stands they are set to >>>bury yet another 5 million tons of solid waste along >>>the banks of the region's best whitewater river. What >>>worse fate is there? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>That is certainly one way to look at it. But, try >to >>>>read this with an open mind...Another may be that >the >>>>landfill is EXACTLY the type of partnership that is >>>>necessary for the paddling community. The landfill >>>>understands they do have somewhat of a negative >>impact >>>>on the surrounding community and does what they can >>to >>>>give back to the community, whether the reasons are >>>>selfish or not. >>>> >>>>This is not the place to solve waste management >>>>issues, but whether the paddling community accepts >>>>sponsorship from a landfill or not will not affect >>the >>>>fact that the landfill is there...and is >>>>necessary...and is not going away under the current >>>>system as long as you keep putting trash on your >>curb. >>>> >>>> >>>>But, on the other hand, if we take a standoffish >>>>approach and make yet another enemy, then certain >>>>community improvements may not happen and guess >>>>what??? The landfill is still there and, most >>>>importantly, WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE A VOICE AT THE >>>>TABLE. >>>> >>>>Would you have more success getting your point >across >>>>to a partner? Or an enemy? Anyone treated like an >>>>enemy will certainly not listen to our >issues...which >>>>is why the landfill is a good to keep as a partner. > >>>> >>>>That does not mean we should not question or even >>>>challenge them if warranted...the key is how one >goes >>>>about it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>If an organization has an event and some other >>>>>organization sponsors it,then that act of >>sponsorship >>>>>gives, at least, the appearance of an alliance >>>between >>>>>the two organizations. >>>>> >>>>>Which is probably why you don't see hunting rifle >>>>>companies sponsoring PETA events. A paddling club & >>a >>>>>landfill seems just as unlikely of a partnership. >>>>> >>>>>But this is probably something best discussed at a >>>>>meeting. The internet is a great place to exchange >>>>>info, but a an absolutely awful place to have a >>>>>discussion about real issues. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I don't recall anyone stating they supported >>>>anything. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Just for confirmation sake. There's a group that >>is >>>>>>>turning the entire stoneycreek watershed into a >>>dump >>>>>>>for New York/ New Jersey and we support them >>>because >>>>>>>they promise us rocks? >>>>>>>How well do you think those dumps will hold up at >>>>>full >>>>>>>capacity during a Johnstown flood?

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