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Date Posted: 07:22:06 02/16/03 Sun
Author: Rev Carol . Kidd
Author Host/IP: 80.40.42.206
Subject: Speke now

I find the comments made about Speke more than a little sad. Thearea under went a great down turn when the major employers closed down or reduced staff. The current picture is up. W are having much physical improvement to houses and factories plus 3 new schools, a new library and shopping centre.

Yes the area has suffered from vandalism etc. but so has every area in the UK it is a major problem not limited to Speke.

The question of the church and its'opening is of course of particular concern to me. speke All Saints has only been open during services since the 1950's so this is not a new phenomenon. In fact our insurers, incommon with all churches that do not have permanent staff on duty, require us to be locked . Even St Peter's inWoolton is locked.

With reguard to the graffti it is something we cannopt remove without damaging the sandstone, so nature has to take its course. No we do not like it but alas that's the way it is. It would have been good to have heard about a well kept graveyard and a well repaierd and cared for church. Some £130,000 hase been spent on the building in the last four years every penny found locally or from charities.

YEs we have had to protect the low roofs in order that they do not get damaged by children climbing on them. But there is no razor wire; it is done with proper vandal protection.

We have also spent £15,000 on the woodland around the church, again found by us as will be the moneyt o do up the old school now the church hall. We work hard to be the people of God in Speke alongside all others who worship here.

Please do not talk Speke down, rather talk of the good things and raise peoples esteem. For most folk i speke are wonderful and do a good job of being good neighbours and friends.
Please when you come again call at the vicarage and I'll take you to see the good things, renovated houses, in the main estate and in Dymchurch, examples of caring that goes the extra mile. YOu may find that things have changed, they have and are changing again to make Speke an even better place to live. Oh by the way I choose to livehere, and I enjoy doing so.

Carol

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[> Re: Speke now -- Tom Ryder, 09:42:22 02/16/03 Sun (213.122.152.147)

Hello Carol....Now I am really confused. You suggest that the comments that I have made, to be, "more than a little sad". You go on to confirm and agree with everything that I have stated namely:

The area suffers from vandalism.
Speke has suffered a great downturn.
The church is closed opening only for services.
There is graffiti on the church.
The roofs are protected by wire and cctv.
Conditions in Speke changed for the worse but are improving.

These were my original comments made about Speke which you have now confirmed....nice to have you on my side.

I try not to look at the situation through rose tinted glasses because I know that things will not get better if I stick my head in the sand and ignore them. I understand and accept that Speke Estate is evolving slowly with the aid of major long term investments being made in the area.

My comments were open and honest and it was my understanding and assumption that everyone was aware of the good things that were happening to the area. When I asked many of the local people what they thought about conditions in Speke, they confirmed my fears about the above listed problems. After hearing many Spekeites voice their concerns and, in the same breath, inform me that nobody is doing anything to correct the situation. I decided to have a go and bring it before the world. I am not interested in correcting the goods things because they will happen in any event. I am concerned with bringing about change in the bad things that are happening to Speke.

I believe that we both have the same end product in mind, save and for, I address the problem from the gutter and you address the problem as though through the eyes of Mary Poppins. I trust that we will both attain our goal for a better Speke.

Best wishes....Tom

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