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Date Posted: 21:43:51 08/14/03 Thu
Author: Tim Koch
Subject: Re: Help!?!
In reply to: Yellow 's message, "Help!?!" on 23:26:57 08/13/03 Wed

Classic.
Just classic Yellow. Seriously...check it out. This is what's going on. Just like they are using you to fight both of their sides. You even go so far as to claim they dont' listen to you. Hmm. I know someone else who is in your very shoes. Check it out. I know this guy...Jesus Christ...AKA GOD!. Anywho...he's got the Bible right? And tells us all this cool stuff about how Love is patient, and kind, and keeps no record of wrongs...etc...etc. Then about how guys should respect their girlfriends, and love their wives and such as Christ loved the church.
Anywho...all that is written down, but your two friends just ignore it, as they ignore you. Not to be mean, but their actions kind of tell me that they want to fix it themselves.
As for your friend doing something stupid...AKA taking her life. No offense, but she's the reason why the stereotype that women are stupid is around. Example...
Her relationship goes bad. She wants to get back at her boyfriend, and wants him to feel guilty and stuff. So she decides...well, I'll just kill myself, then he'll feel bad. Umm...well...YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!!
Just as if she went to his house on such and such a night he would love her more and their relationship would get stronger...that didn't seem to work, so what makes you think killing yourself is going to work?
Second of all, if you kill yourself, you don't get the satisfaction of watching your ex wallow in self pity and despair. Instead your watching you skin melt off your bones and you get pounded by the unending tide of burning sulfer from the pit of hell. To me, it seems like killing yourself would only claim... "Ok, you win."
Whatever though.

You don't want to get involved? Then don't get involved.
It's really simple. You say this. "Listen, you asked for my advice and you ignored it. So I'll tell you the same thing I told you last time, and after you've taken that advice, I'll give you some more...should you need it."
Or how about this one. "Hey So and so...to me it's looking like...in the field of opportunity, it's plowing time again."
Man...I could go off forever...but I need to be at work by 6AM tomorrow morning.
Later.
Tk

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[> [> Re: Help!?! -- Yellow, 22:49:38 08/14/03 Thu

You make good sense, and while your comments were very comical, yet good, i still feel like i am the bearer of bad news to each of them. I claim that i don't want any part in the fight, and i am just realizing that i am lying to myself. I desperately want to see them work it out. Not saying that they should be together or that they shouldn't. I don't want to be on either sides, but at the same time i want to be there for them. Maybe hearing that i need to back away is what i need right now. Sometimes i feel like i am trying to be God, making things alright at any expense. I wish i could take your advice and just step out of the scene...but something is holding me there.

Truly, you want to know what i think. You said that since it seems they are ignoring me, maybe they want to work it out on their own...i don't know if they want to work it out. Oddly enough, i think they both still have feelings for each other, but they won't give in to either one. They figure that arguing is easier than realizing that they either do or they either don't like each other. I don't know if that makes sense or not, but yeah. I had a bad time at work tonight...they had a fight and i work with the girl...she cried to me, made me feel like crap and basically put herself down (and i agree the whole death threats and putting herself down is definetly what gives women in general a bad name ). I want to back away, but i just feel evil abandoning her. and him for that matter. he is always talking to me about how he hates whats going on...but he won't do anythign about it. Its starting to be an annoyance rather than something i want to spend time thinking about.

I feel like i am going on about nothing...i never really express myself all that well in words...and usually end up writing stupid stuff. i am thankful that you are sharing, and would have loved to have you go on forever but work calls...and sleep is a heck of a lot more important. Speaking of which, i need sleep.

Tschau


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