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Date Posted: 13:27:39 04/15/03 Tue
Author: «șTone Caponeș»
Author Host/IP: 1Cust72.tnt1.coos-bay.or.da.uu.net / 67.225.118.72
Subject: Re: Hmmm...
In reply to: Kharn 's message, "Hmmm..." on 12:57:45 04/15/03 Tue

>Do you realise that's morally screwed up? You
>basically decide who has more right to live; you or
>him. Even worse, you decide the risk of your death
>needs to be prevented at the cost of his life.

Wrong, he decided it when he broke into my house. I have the right to protect my family, he does not have the right to break into my house. I don't see where you're getting the "you decide the risk of your death"? Is the gun going to backfire on me or explode in my hand? I'll make the shot count.


>And THAT's the main difference between Europe and the
>US. Everyone choses to give up rights, you Americans
>give up rights too, you give up the right for a proper
>democracy by living in the bloody country, for God's
>sake. But for other instances you give up the right to
>use drugs. These are choices, rights are given up in
>order for a culture to live.

That's right. We gave up the right to be victims of criminals who don't give a damn about laws. Yeah, we gave up so much democracy...

>We chose to give up the right to bear arms. Why?
>Because we don't feel we have any right to decide
>whether or not a man should be alive or dead. Like it
>or not, but that makes us the most morally developed
>country, not you. I'm talking simple Christian
>morality here, the one used by Europe and the US alike.

Well, let's get back to this issue. In the hundreds of thousands of rounds I have fired, I have yet to shoot at one person. I have the right to protect my family. I'm not even going to argue this with you anymore, your attacks are pathetic, basically coming to the conclusion that my life is ruled by my guns, and thus violence.

>>Hey Kharn, what did the Netherlands do in WWII? Did
>>they just roll over and surrender hoping the Nazis
>>(and the Japanese in the Dutch East Indies) would he
>>nice to them and really wouldn't ship people off to
>>concentration camps, or did your country make an
>>attempt to defend itself, like England and the U.S.
>>did, which is the only reason we aren't all speaking
>>German right now
>
>We fought for a couple of days, surrendered as soon as
>Rotterdam was bombed. Belgium fought longer, France
>even longer. The Dutch Indies fought just a tad
>harder, but fought really hard after the war to get
>rid of us. I'm glad they did that, though.
>
>We live in a culture of compromise. The Dutch are
>famous for that, we're also well aware of it, we mock
>it ourselves, call it the "poldermodel" and laugh at
>our own constant compromise-making politicians, but
>the fact is, we like it that way, and I far prefer it
>to the American way of living.
>
>>(Hitler would have crushed the
>>U.S.S.R. if he had only one front to worry about).
>
>Hitler would have crushed the US if he had only one
>front to worry about.

He probably would have at that time.

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