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Date Posted: 09:19:48 04/11/03 Fri
Author: Kharn
Author Host/IP: kharnserv.xs4all.nl / 213.84.47.237
Subject: I don't know
In reply to: Gwydion 's message, "Another article about Britain" on 20:55:27 04/10/03 Thu

The thing is, I've been wondering about the same thing myself.

Now England's culture is remarkable similar to the American, since the American sprang from that of England the odd few centuries ago (that, and the Dutch, you should rename New York to it's original name: NIEUW AMSTERDAM! MUAHAHAHAHA)

Obviously, unlike what some believe (and I don't (any longer)), gun laws aren't the CAUSE of murder rates etc. etc. In how far they work as a catalyst is also put up for debate by articles like these.

However, just like you can't blame deaths on the guns, you can't praise gun laws for making a place safe either. It's COMPLETELY unfair to even start comparing Britain and US murder rates simply because the US doesn't count one tenth of its gun deaths as murders, the rest are self defence or accidents, which in Britain would have counted as murder. Also, it's not like there weren't a lot of things happening besides the restriction in gun laws during 1997-2001, such as immigration problem and England still has quite a lot of povery problems.

One thing's obvious, though; what happened to England there is EXACTLY what would happen to the US if you abolished guns right now, so you shouldn't, but that doesn't mean you can just apply the same gun laws to, for instance, European countries. It's not as simple as that.

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