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Date Posted: 09:35:57 05/20/03 Tue
Author: Gemma
Author Host/IP: 203.220.205.186
Subject: I think the(spoiler)
In reply to: sLaP 's message, "Chosen Review by sLaP" on 09:20:39 05/20/03 Tue

Footwear thing was to do with shanshuing..sans shoes=without shoes but Joss gave him lots don't know if it meant he wasn't going to turn human or to put us off from the fact he will. The dust crumnbled away to reveal Spike human..We didn't see him fully disintergrate.Spike is my champion

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[> In one point I disagree with you -- hg, 11:09:16 05/20/03 Tue (217.85.185.242)

this was IMO in no way better than "Becoming". But I am highly biased and think nothing is better than "Becoming", with maybe the exception of OMWF.

Otherwise, I am bit disappointed. It was the series finale, yet, in EVERY season finale, way more unanswered questions were explained. While watching the Buffy/ Angel conversation for the first time, I fell asleep (!), and the second time I used the fast forward button, because it was just to painful to watch.

After Angel left, it became much better, IMO, although it was odd that after half of this episode was open, still NOTHING has happened (with the exception of the ultimate demise of Caleb, but that was a very short scene).

I am still not very fond about the idea to awake all these Slayers with the spell. but mainly because I am afraid to see a bunch of them in Angel. And to contradict you: I so NOT want to see slayer school spinoff, and I am just glad and relieved, that it isn't a theme anymore. None of them has developped a character IMO or is interesting as an individual. And I still hate K***** with a passion you can't even imagine. I found her nearly tolerable in "Empty Places" but then came "Touched" and all the hatred was back. But I accept her as Willow's punishment for her murders last years.

The fight scenes were all in all very good, but I think the ubervamps are an unworthy finale villain. There is just no emotonial connection between. Plus, may I say this, it was stupid, stupid, stupid that the Slayers didn't wait opening the seal, until Willow had done the spell. That was that stupid, that all of them deserve to die for this as a proper punishment. It was the IMO most stupid thing a character (or in this case characters) ever did on this show.

I am glad Anya went out as a hero. It was unnecessary brutal, but I am just relieved they changed the part in the shooting script and she really died saving Andrew, and it wasn't just one of Andrew's stories, like in the script. However, I am annoyed that her death took 1 second of screentime, while Spike died for about half an hour. That is not fair, especially because Spike comes back anyway.

Loved the Xander/ Andrew scene in the end. Hated the mall talk. That was useless brabble, especially, because Xander was involved. I yelled at the screen: "Shut up, Xander". The heart of the group, and he grieved for about twenty seconds about Anya. Thanks ME, for making me hate a character, I always liked, in the very last scene. And Wood's joke was not funny, but tasteless. Anya, Spike and a bunch of SiTs just died, and he has nothing better to do, than play dead to see Faith' reaction. In my version of the finale, he died offscreen, while Buffy was smiling in the crater.

And although for some reason this sounds pretty negative, I mostly enjoyed and liked this episode. But I didn't love it and I think there are many, many better "Buffy" episodes.

I give it a B-.


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[> [> One point? Didn't you mean you only *agreed* with one point -- sLaP, 11:20:44 05/20/03 Tue (62.252.0.5)

I just dont see Becoming as anything special at all. Did anya die saving andrew? I didn't notice, I thought she was just caught off guard.

With seaso finale's wrapping things up, thats so they can move onto the next season. THey dont need to do that here as they'll be wanting a Movie/Spinoff franchise in which to deal with such things.

As for the emotional attachment, I don't think it was needed here as the emotional attachment, is, again, usually to lead to something with the next season (also where was the emotional attachment with The Master and Adam who simply wanted her dead.)


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[> [> [> Well, at first I only wanted to say, that I liked Becoming better, but -- hg, 11:55:15 05/20/03 Tue (217.85.185.242)

than I wrote my whole opinion about the episode and forgot to change the topic headline.

And Anya died saving Andrew. Without her, he would have been probably killed by the ubervamps. I know what happened later, but luckily, I just ignored it. And don't take me away from Egypt.


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[> [> [> [> I didn't notice -- sLaP, 12:08:26 05/20/03 Tue (62.252.0.5)

the saving bit...I just dont get how he survived after she died...there was tonnes around him


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[> [> [> [> [> Well, what I meant is without her, he would have been -- hg, 12:17:28 05/20/03 Tue (217.85.185.242)

dead, because he wouldn't have a chance against such many ubervamps at once. So she did save him. (*I told you, don't brinmg me back from denial land, I spent minutes to change this scene in my head, I don't want to go back to "reality" that soon*)


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[> [> [> [> [> [> No I meant *After* -- sLaP, 12:23:21 05/20/03 Tue (62.252.0.5)

After she died there were still loads of them...how did he do it...


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