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Date Posted: 21:43:03 03/30/03 Sun
Author: Clemens SUEN
Subject: 病魔不及心魔險!
In reply to: Keith's message & Brenda's response 's message, "SARS" on 19:41:25 03/30/03 Sun

Dear Keith,

I hope that my response is not going to be perceived as "watching fire from the other shore".

After the Y2K alarm a few years ago, I could not help thinking that it is so easy to scare people. Where is the perspective? Where is the discernment? And where is our faith?

Your email deserve my three cheers!

In Him,

Clemens

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[> Re: SARS -- Cannice Tam, 13:21:45 03/31/03 Mon

Yes, we should not be scare about this disease more than other equally frightening disease. But we should be scare the way we handle the disease. We are not putting the right measures in fighting it:

Take Amoy Garden as an example: we know residents at large are affected; till now we have no plan to examine all residents; till now there are no plan to address the helplessness of the residents...should they go to work, should they move to other place,...

I have a lot of respects for the doctors and nurses who are fighting with the diseases. However their effort need to be supported by other measures, like stopping visitors to hospitials, stopping media or others to intervene their work,..

We may not be in the position to design and implement those measures. In the least we should take care of our good self and help doctors, nurses and others not by catching disease. We should be courageous enough to wear on masks and follow other advices and be more considerate to stay home more to avoid the necessary activities.

One may joke about Y2K. But think about if no measures have been taken, would we have a quiet year?

Best regards,

Cannice

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[> [> 病魔不及心魔險! -- Keith (子堅), 21:54:41 03/31/03 Mon

Hi, Cannice,

很高興你也同意,非典型肺炎並不比任何一種危疾更危險,
而對於這種病我們也不應比對其他病更為惶恐!

至於說我們應對政府處理這種病的手法,感到驚怕!……這點
我也不大同意……我們應感到憤怒,而不是恐懼!

很欣賞你的一句話,你說:「we should be courageous
enough to wear on masks」。對,我們應該勇敢地戴上面罩
以防感染,而不要得的是被嚇怕到不得不戴……更要不得的
是心膽俱破、不敢不戴,更四處強迫別人也非戴不可!

最後,請明白,Clemens並不是拿Y2K來開玩笑,而住在紐約
的他,說的也不是香港IT界對Y2K所做的種種工作,他所講的
是北美一帶對Y2K的恐慌,家家無地牢的挖地牢,有地牢的就
在地牢儲存食品、藥品、必需品,結果其後一兩年,餐餐罐頭、
朝朝奶粉,總是吃它不完!

在現實之內,恐懼是我們應該掌握分寸、切忌誇大的情緒!
在信仰之下,恐懼是我們可以藉助主恩、不難克服的障礙!


在此再次希望大家得到
主內的平安

子堅

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[> [> [> Re: 病魔不及心魔險! -- 志常, 13:03:48 04/01/03 Tue


人們感到驚惶,就因為不能將驚怕、憤怒、恐懼的情緒分開,對不起,我不忍心再罵他們「要不得」,為此,上主求磭姨式I

在整個事件由開始到現今,我沒有親自接觸到恐懼和驚惶失措的人士,雖然這樣的氣氛好像籠罩著社會;我親自接觸到的是謹慎、負責任而理性行動的朋友們。無論決定取消或繼續一個活動,都有他/她們的分析基礎。我不斷接到很多的慰問與關懷的電話,體會到面對危疾,互相關懷的安慰和重要(請看關懷天悅的電郵!)。為有一群肯負責任又對磞釧狳抩a的朋友在我身邊共同進退,上主,我感謝瞗I

因著對磢澈H靠,才能有一顆平常心,才能不被誇大的情緒所困擾,
上主,求篚蝘琱O量,學習掌握分寸,散發慈悲心!為此,上主求磭姨式I

志常

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[> [> [> [> Re: 病魔不及心魔險! -- Keith (子堅), 02:17:11 04/02/03 Wed


志常:

你無疑是幸運的,你有大批體恤人的會友,環繞在你的身邊,可以不去理會社會上的紛擾和混亂。

小弟不是要以先知自居,但昨天早上震盪香江的「疫埠」謠言和其後的「搶購米糧」行動,無疑側面證實了香港地,人心虛怯到什麼程度!

我一星期前所講的「心魔」,不是已現出身形,清楚站在大家的面前了嗎?

病痛肯定可以打敗我,打敗我的家人,但絕不能打敗全香港!

但謠諑紛紜、以訛傳訛、驚上加驚、恐而又恐,這一個又一個的「心魔」,卻絕對可以打敗打垮香港!

如果你的經驗,真能反映伉儷會的真實,我們的會友,真能擁有無畏無懼的態度,去面對逆境,那現在恐怕是我們不再獨善其身,把這種寶貴的情操,散發到全香港的時候了!

香港現時所缺的,是能振聾發啞的領袖,帶大家走出這「幽暗的心靈深谷」,有沒有想過,帶領你的一群朋友,去做多一點點!

一而再,再而三地祈求
願大家能得主內的平安

子堅

又: 不過,志常,『要不得』只是意見,怎樣也算不上責罵!請對我慈悲一點!

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[> [> 病魔不及心魔險! -- 宜意, 09:47:41 04/01/03 Tue

你說是一個小小的風波?也許是。但這風波涉及人命,我不會為我的子女投一個風險太大的賭注。因為我愛她們,我愛我的丈夫。
我也愛香港,我願意為大眾忍耐一點,例如帶口罩,因為我不知自己是否帶菌者,為他人為自己。
這一次我要多謝傳媒的報導,否則我會太輕視事件,疏於防範。我更感謝那些以生命為人服務的醫護人員,他們是主的光榮。

宜意謹上

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[> [> [> Re: 病魔不及心魔險! -- Dorothy Cheng, 15:23:09 04/01/03 Tue

Hi SZE KEEN,

I agree with your words : FEAR let us near God, so whoever wear face mask or not, just depends on yr faith to do so. I think God will take care of our heart. The most important is to stay with our God.

Take care , all

dorothy

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[> [> [> [> Re: 病魔不及心魔險!(嘩!還是這個話題!) -- Keith (子堅), 01:12:21 04/02/03 Wed

Hi, Dorothy,

多謝你的支持,事實上我近日和不少伉儷會友好談話,他們都表示認同之意,但就是不願加入討論行列,可能倦於論戰吧!

在此不公開他們的名字了,以免跡近向他們施壓,要他們發表意見!

不過,剛過去的主日,聽見神父在彌撤中講道,說的道理幾和我如出一轍,我當時就有衝動,想在彌撤後問問神父,是否曾看見過我的「病魔不及心魔險」一文。

神父所說的不外乎是:在這挑戰之前,一切措施都是必要,但也是次要的。恐懼才是最大的敵人,恐懼是我們未能完全仰賴天主的徵狀,去除這障礙我們投靠天主的恐懼,才是當今最重要的課題!

當然,由神父來說,和由我來說,是兩碼子事,首先我是惹火人物,議題到我手中,自然帶有爭議性,其次現今仍是神職的世代,神職依然有其權威性!

不過,無論如何,我對大家的圍攻,絕無敵意。由頭至尾,憂慮大家為恐懼所籠罩,是我最為擔心之處,大家既然能化恐懼為對我的憤怒,那我也算對大家有點貢獻,是嗎?

由始至終都祈望大家得到
主內的平安

子堅

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: 病魔不及心魔險!(嘩!還是這個話題!) -- Dorothy Cheng, 10:42:30 04/02/03 Wed

Dear SZE Keen

Happy to got yr reply.

I do believe that everybody has the right & freedom to express their feelings and words. Moreover, no matter how " high ranking"/ powerful man saying, I think it is the same. Do you know that we have the wisdom from God ? For myself, I wd only listen the words is TRUTH, I don't believe the POWER, FAME of some people. I also critize those famous person's saying.

Therefore, be yourself, and express yr feelings. It is a good stimulus for us to think of the disease and our life. Life is a war, game & gift. Take it and feel it.

Yes, fear make us lose the way of life, especially for HongKongers who are always in well situation. This is a good lesson for us to understand and know the feeling of some citizens in other place.

Take heart and let go
Rgds
dorothy

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