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Date Posted: Monday, January 16, 12:30:51am
Author: AS
Author Host/IP: d173-180-97-132.bchsia.telus.net / 173.180.97.132
Subject: Oh ho, how true...
In reply to: AS 's message, "They didn't let me down." on Monday, January 16, 12:05:22am

"Oh, and Moffat trolling the fans cracks me up. I can just see him giggling to himself about how delightful it is to play with them, a cat with his over-excitable mouse."

I think we know where Moriarity gets it from now, right???

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[> [> [> Re: They didn't let me down. -- Chani, Monday, January 16, 06:21:46pm (81-65-157-129.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.157.129)

I didn't expect Moriarty to kill himself!

So many references to the SH books but also many BBC tv shows (Moffat's Jekyll, Doctor Who and Life On Mars even!), and I couldn't help thinking of The Prestige too...

Above all I loved the little hints of military discipline when John's emotions were about to overwhelm him in the grave scene. Such a nice touch.I also loved the Molly stuff, how her selflessness foreshadowed Sherlock's sacrifice (how he learned from her), and how her being unnoticed worked regarding Moriarty's cheme; he "knew" her better than the 3 he counted as Sherlock's friends but he didn't really notice her, she never counted for him, which helped Sherlock to do whatever he did with her off-screen.

Moriarty calling himself a "storyteller" and the character assassination of the famous Sherlock Holmes was a brilliant idea, and a great way to transpose ACD killing off his hero!

The more I watch the series the more I think that Mycroft is the truly intriguing character here.

PS: and all those who were mad about Irene's exit are going to say that it foreshadowed Sherlock's faking his own death now. LOL

Oh and John's entry on his blog:

http://www.johnwatsonblog.co.uk/blog/16ajune


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[> [> [> [> And Sherlock clued John in -- Chani, Monday, January 16, 06:29:06pm (81-65-157-129.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.157.129)

saying "it's just a magic trick" but John didn't listen...

Also I wonder...we aren't supposed to know the man on the bicycle who conevniently knocked John down before he could reach the body, are we?


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[> [> [> [> Watching it again tonight, this time with Don. -- AS, Monday, January 16, 09:23:16pm (d173-180-97-132.bchsia.telus.net/173.180.97.132)

As bad as Jim's math was when it came to counting Sherlock's friends, I think it was more his psycho, insane self that made that final decision up on the roof. Hell, if you have gone through the massive shennanigans he did just to set this up, the embarassment of loosing would have killed him anyhow!

Notice that Mycroft doesn't get included in the "Friends" category? Interesting, that. Did Mycroft spill all the beans carelessly or did he secretly hope that his little brother would get some kind of comeuppance? After all, Mycroft lives and works his spiderweb in the shadows but Sherlock was more and more resembling Apollo, that shining god up in the sky...perhaps Mycroft was hoping to create an Icarus situation but things got out of hand. Didn't they?

There has been speculation that Molly used coworkers and perhaps some of Sherlock's homeless netork to set up the tragic demise that John witnessed. Of course his emotions could be called on to get the better of him to a certain extent but just to be sure, he was knocked down by the cyclist so that his dazed and confused self never got a truly good look at what seemed to have been Sherlock's dying body. SO looking forward to how Sherlock is going to explain the sleight of hand they pulled!!

Love the blog-the previous entry with John/Sherlock/Ms Watson was hilarious!!

More later, I am sure.


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[> [> [> [> [> Now I am wondering. -- AS, Tuesday, January 17, 12:22:52am (NoHost/173.180.97.132)

Did Mycroft set up Jim? I wonder if the Holmes brothers realised there was no easy way to take down the "spider" and used his one weakness (his love/hate relationship with Sherlock) to get him to make the mistake of forcing Sherlock to the precipice??

Watching it a second time, I have to wonder whether Mycroft was manipulating John towards that final ending every bit as much as his brother was. After all, we are talking about the King of Criminals; it was going to take extraordinary measures involving both friends and enemies to take him down. Since apparently they felt that just locking him up and throwing away the key would not keep Moriarity from his empire, forcing his hand when he thought he'd won could have meant Mycroft had to get his hands dirty...the more I think about it, the more sense it makes to me. Mycroft is about as far from a blabbermouth as you can get!

On the other hand, Sally and Anderson (the lemmings!) deserve to be run out of town on a rail.

As much as everyone feels sorry for John, it's fascinating to see how much being with Sherlock has completely turned his life around. It may take a while for him to forgive Sherlock once the truth comes out but he will, he will.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Oh yes! -- Chani, Tuesday, January 17, 06:05:10am (81-65-157-129.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.157.129)

Actually, I'm pretty sure that Mycroft did manipulate John throughout the episode --hence his "I'm sorry", just like Sherlock manipulated his friend and apologised on the phone too( the Holmes brothers are much more alike than they think!)--, and is possibly the bigger schemer of all...the final scene in the gentlemen's club wasn't easy to read, but I read it as someone that considered the job finally done.

I can't believe that eh was fooled by Moriarty and made a mistake when talking about Sherlock's life. You're right, he's the kind of man who would take extraordinary measures to get the "king of criminals", including "helping" Moriarty to destroy the Sherlock's fame.

I am not saying that Sherlock and Mycroft necessarily worked together on this, but that Mycroft manipulated everybody and counted on his little brother's skills to eventually turn the tables on Moriarty and escape one way or another.


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