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Date Posted: 17:06:23 01/31/06 Tue
Author: Ceri G
Author Host/IP: 158.125.1.113
Subject: I can only think of one workable solution and that is a monthly/yearly subscription service to be honest. Then if you haven't coughed then no access?
In reply to: carlos 's message, "Cant you get the system to send out e-mails to people who post more than once a day and lurkers saying oi cunt head pay up? I've tended to pay in now and then, but haven't done for a while due to fundraiser- will pay from paypal when you stick that up. But how much are we looking at every month? As an alternative banning Phil should ease the pressure I think." on 16:55:50 01/31/06 Tue

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Much as I love Gwlad, and you have every sympathy for all of the agg you go thru, I'm not sure compulsory subs is the way to go - gwlad will lose it's diversity (e.g. would non-Welsh posters pay to join?) and you guys will open yourself up to a whole world of pissy hissy fits of the 'I don't pay good money to have my team/fave player/etc criticised' brigade. It's just that the nature of the relationship between Gwlad and the readers changes when you move from free to pay. Soz that's not more helpful, and all imho (and experience). Anyway, shove up the blydi details so I can pony up. (NT) -- ad, 17:17:24 01/31/06 Tue
- But what's the alternative? We have these emergency whip-rounds from time to time which patch up the cracks (and some people pitch in substantial amounts, from what I recall), but the whole thing dies off just as quickly. So Ceri has to "beg" again a few months later. There's got to be a sounder footing to Gwlad than that. (NT) -- CaptenS, 17:19:14 01/31/06 Tue
  - I agree with Ad. I pay monthly, and have upped it as of next month, but I am also a member of another non-rubgy site that charges a sub and the atmosphere changed straight away. You will get all of the shit Ad mentioned and more. How about something like a Gwlad 100 club, where each person (openly) contributes �5 a month, with a draw for �100 prize each month? It could be out in the open as it would be a comp and not a "look at how great I am for donating" thing. God knows who we'd trust to make the draw though... (NT) -- Nottsgriff, 17:25:40 01/31/06 Tue
  - Don't know mate. just think that compulsory subs will change the nature of the site, and that what is meant to save it will significantly change it. I would/will cough up monthly, just not sure how many would, and how many of them I'd want to share space with. Like I said, next time Phil gets on his high horse Gwlad could lose a few contributors, leaving them in a position of potentially banning someone cos he affects revenue. Actually, that might encourage me to pay more;-). I know it's a problem, just not convinced compulsory posting subs are the answer. Maybe if you post above a certain level e.g. first 20 are free. that would keep the random element of it going I guess, and things like the 6 nations would turn into a decent revenue source. (NT) -- ad, 17:30:14 01/31/06 Tue
    - I can't see an alternative here. and oh btw the server is officially knackered to the point whereby its unrepairable :( Septic has been looking at it and more or less condemned it. Here's what I am going to do...I am going to order a new server that is fit for the job. I don't know total costs yet but I will try and get away with a minimum specced machine - 30 odd USD. I'll them have to move everything over and cough fo the things that can't be done remotely. We will have to move to subscriptions as soon as that box is up and running , if it doesn't wash with the punters that is fair enough, I will be out the door and someone else will have to pay . No hard feelings either way mind - if it doesn't work and pay for itself then its dead as far as I am concerned. Interestingly enough - why do the other sub-sites feel the need to ask for subs? It doesn't work otherwise? (NT) -- Ceri G, 17:53:54 01/31/06 Tue
      - its 300 odd btw, even my keyboard is giving up now (NT) -- Ceri G, 17:55:32 01/31/06 Tue
        Furry muff mate - can you chuck up the details on where to contribute? ta (NT) -- ad, 19:42:57 01/31/06 Tue
      - Ceri mun. Am financially fecked and can't make a useful one-off BUT I know I could do a monthly payment if subs is required. Also, can do HTML, CSS, DHTML, JS and various other poncy shit and would be more than happy to contirbute to helping build a site if you need someone to do some of that kind of work. Pro bono, natch. PM me. Oh, er - you know my email anyway don't you? (NT) -- Newboy, 23:36:01 01/31/06 Tue
- Ceri butty, I'd be dead against going to subs personally (the insanity of Gwlad is the critical part of it), but will up my dd to keep things going (hopefully some of the feckers that have now woken up to the real financial plight of the board - well, your pocket really - and a decent fighting fund might have been set up come the 1st Nov). If it hasn't, then bin the fecker... (NT) -- IS, 22:07:42 10/25/06 Wed

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