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Date Posted: 14:48:08 10/30/03 Thu
Author: TimeTrial.org
Subject: Re: TT Cup Points Calculation
In reply to: Rick Babington 's message, "TT Cup Points Calculation" on 13:41:45 10/30/03 Thu

I thought of exactly this solution when designing the Cup.

Problem is, I had no way of knowing which of the riders at Fiesta Island were CAT 1/2/3 and which were Masters. I still have no way of knowing until the racer competes in a USCF time trial and gains points toward the Cup.

Maybe next year this will be possible, however a 1/2/3 racer can, at any time, choose to switch to Masters (providing that they are 30+ years old) and apply all their points to the Masters category. This would negate any benefits of seperating them at Fiesta Island. Also, the tunout at Fiesta is larger than any other time trial in the area, and that is another reason that the multiplier is in effect, as it is for the Omnium. See the SoCalCycling.com riders cup for more exaples of this.

Thanks for your suggestion. Appreciate the feedback

Gary
timetrial.org

Thanks for your response and I will consider

>Gary,
>
>If I am not mistaken, all SoCal TT's since Oct. 1st
>have seen an increase in participation compared to
>last season. I would like to think this is due to the
>formation of the TT Cup, and I fully support your
>efforts.
>I would like to offer a solution to the points issue
>brought up by Eugene Poyerena concerning Fiesta Island:
>At fiesta island, separate out the Cat 1/2/3 riders
>from their respective age group results and award them
>points amongst themselves toward the TT Cup. You
>already do this for the other TT's. Example: I raced
>35+ at Piru, I am 44, I was given TT Cup Points based
>on my time compared to the other 40-49yr olds at this
>event. This method would give the age groups a real
>shot at points "5-deep", whereas the current system
>precludes some age group riders from securing any
>points in the TT Cup by allowing the CAT 1/2/3 riders
>to take away points from that age group, and it gives
>CAT 1/2/3 riders a chance to secure the same amount of
>points as one of their competitors for the same event!!
>I can not see how this can be interpreted as "fair
>play".
>Also, please eliminate the multiplier at all events,
>thus leveling the playing field. Or, designate one
>date at each of the four venues as a "double points"
>event. Let the event promoters decide which date is
>best for them.
>
>I am assuming that the motivation behind the formation
>of the TT CUP is one of increased participation, which
>is what we all want, so let's make it fair and
>equitable for all of the athletes who are supporting
>this program.
>
>Thank's for your time,
>Rick Babington
>USA Cycling Elite Coach
>& TT CUP Participant

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Re: TT Cup Points Calculation -- Another Masters Racer, 16:44:27 10/30/03 Thu

Re: TT Cup Points Calculation -- TimeTrial.org, 17:08:58 10/30/03 Thu

Re: TT Cup Points Calculation -- TimeTrial.org, 15:41:36 10/31/03 Fri

Re: TT Cup Points Calculation -- TimeTrial.org, 15:43:00 10/31/03 Fri