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Date Posted: Sat, Mar 04, 08:09:30pm CST
Author: Jerry
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 68.254.58.22
Subject: Re: Rimbey's Hawk
In reply to: sparkie 's message, "Re: Rimbey's Hawk" on Sat, Mar 04, 05:25:46pm CST

>>>>>>>>Anyone ever hunt with him??
>>>>>>>Perry, never had a chance to hunt with him but
>>have
>>>>>>>hunted with some of his offspring namely Spud. I
>>>>>>>thought he was a real nice dog with a good mouth.
>>>>>>>Hunted with his Dad(Cliff, when Jim Knight owned
>>>>>>>him)and he had a outstanding mouth. Cliff's
>>brother
>>>>>>>Ole Lep also was a outstanding dog. I know you
>>have
>>>>>>>some interest in Hawk and his offspring and have
>>>you
>>>>>>>ever checking into Oquburn Taylor's dog called
>>>Sonny
>>>>>>>James?? He has a double shot of Hawk 2nd and 3rd
>>>>>>>generation back on the Sire's side. Might be
>worth
>>>>>>>looking into. Don't know of anything that close
>up
>>>>to
>>>>>>>Hawk anywhere else.....thanks...........sparkie
>>>>>>Yes Gary I see that now. It comes from Rigg's
>Daisy
>>>>>>and Jewel. I have hunted with Sonny several times.
>>>He
>>>>>>can tree a coon. I have raised about as much of
>>that
>>>>>>stuff as I can find up close. I bred my
>>>>>>Pepper(SpudsxFreebee) to Blackie. Black was by
>>>>>>(HawkxLocust Creek Wendy). I also bred her to
>Rufus
>>>>by
>>>>>>Blackie x Cox's Nellie. They were extra nice dogs.
>>I
>>>>>>have also bred Pepper to My Jet dog by
>>>>>>BlackiexBatGirl.
>>>>>>I brought Spuds here for a while but could not get
>>a
>>>>>>female bred to him. He was real old then. We even
>>>>>>tried to get enough semen to A.I. a female but the
>>>>>>quality was not there. Last summer I found a male
>>>>from
>>>>>>SpudsxFrebee.A younger litter same as my Pepper. I
>>>>>>brought him back to Ohio and bred 1 female. She
>did
>>>>>>not whelp. His semen was good for an 11+ year old
>>>>dog.
>>>>>>I guess it was not meant to be. I was excited
>about
>>>>>>that prospect. That male was named "Roy" and he
>was
>>>>>>located in Jerseyville Illinois. He was just
>hunted
>>>>>>and had never thrown a pup. Kind of a shame. The
>>>>Spuds
>>>>>>x Freebee cross was made 3 times and put some coon
>>>>>>dogs on the ground. I have been very fortunae to
>>>have
>>>>>>the help of a lot of good leopard men in this
>>>>project.
>>>>>>Bob Walters who I can never thank enough. Dave
>>>>>>Bray,Bruce Smart, Tom Boysel, Rex Laker and Dan
>>>Noble
>>>>>>to name a few. With the efforts of fellas likes
>>>these
>>>>>>assisting you it s-u-r-e helps. I am always
>>>>>>interested in hearing about any leopard that is
>>>>really
>>>>>>shining whether in the woods or breeding pen. The
>>>>Hawk
>>>>>>decendants, I just kinda take a special look.
>>>Anymore
>>>>>>out there??
>>>>>Perry, came across some papers that showed a dog
>>>>>called River City Billy Jack owned by Daniel and
>>>>>Nathan Buelow. Billy Jack was a litter mate to
>Daisy
>>>>>and Jewel. He came to Clinton in 1984 with some
>pups
>>>>>out of him and a female called River City Cry Baby,
>>>>>which was a litter mate to Clarks Wild Bill and
>>>>>Knights Big Bushy. He lined bred to get these pups
>>>>>using Okaw Valley Rocket, Hawk and Tom Tom. I
>>visited
>>>>>with him and he was real high on his Billy Jack
>dog.
>>>>>Don't know if you or anyone else have heard of him
>>>but
>>>>>there might be some offspring floating around
>there.
>>>>>Seems like he may have been from Michigan or one of
>>>>>those northern states. Let me know as I may be
>>>>>interested.....thanks...sparkie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Talked to him a good while back.
>>>>He lived in the Quad cities area.
>>>>Moline,Rock Island!!!!
>>>>I think in illinois.
>>>>Only hit that came back, was in Barrington, near
>>>>Chicago, on Google.
>>>>
>>>>Jerry
>>>River City Crybaby was owned by Danny Williams in KY.
>>>for a while. I am not so sure that Re Martin did not
>>>end up with her for a while?? She was 9 in the 90-91
>>>Leopard tree dog yearbook. Billy Jack rings a bell
>but
>>>ain't figured it out yet? Sure appreciate the help
>>>fellas. Perry
>>
>>
>>He had an auction or real estate co. or both.
>>He is the one that named the dogs.
>>Maybe river city auction???
>>Too long ago!!!!!!
>>
>>Yes Danny Williams had her, now that you mention it.
>>Dave Bray, Cox, Riggs, one of them know!!!
>>
>>Jerry
>Did you guys try to get to Hawk only thru Spuds or is
>there any other littermates and offspring to Spuds??
>In the past I have concentrated only on one dog and
>the littermates may carry better genetics. Don't know
>much of the history of Hawk, as to different owners,
>hunting style, and class of females bred to him. I've
>heard bits and pieces over the years and seems like he
>was bred to many different females...Just
>a'thinkin.....sparkie


According to the puter and the out of date database.
These are the direct decendants of Hawk that are listed.

Knights Daisey
Plum Creek Buck
Plum Creek Old Gal
Riggs Daisy
Rimbys Bob
Rimbys Jewell
Rons Can Do Barney
Sally Ann
She's So Sweet Lizzie
Spud
Waters Black Prancer
Powder Creek Rock

There are probably more. These are just the ones I have.
Direct.

Jerry

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