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Subject: Relo..


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Marc
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Date Posted: 14:32:54 03/06/01 Tue
In reply to: Relo from StL 's message, "Re: Another school shooting..." on 08:48:12 03/06/01 Tue

>One more manifestation of what happens when you don't
>teach values to your children. Much as I would like
>to see it more in the classroom, it is nevertheless
>true that the first responsibility for this is at home.
>
>When children commit crimes like this, the parents
>have failed, and the parents should be made to pay a
>price.
>
>Marc, I see you as the type of guy who probably never
>knew what it was like to be picked on by others. You
>present yourself as a big man now, perhaps you were
>also a big guy as a school student. I was not. I was
>seen as the wimp, the easy mark. Believe me, that is
>darned tough to deal with, especially when you face it
>day after day, year after year. You think one like me
>is going to stand up to one like you and spit in your
>eye? I'd love to, but I don't dare. Instead I just
>try to get away. In my day, there was refuge in the
>principal's office or at home. It would seem that
>today there is no refuge at all for kids like I was
>then. Whose fault is that? Combine that with the
>acceptance of violence in our entertainment and the
>easy availability of guns, and you have a recipe for
>disaster.
>
>I used to fantasize about getting even with my
>tormentors (who wouldn't), but that was the end of it.
> In time, I grew up, went away to college, learned to
>deal better with people, and put it all behind me.
>I'm glad I never thought about getting a gun and
>acting out my fantasies. It just wasn't thought of in
>those days. Besides, I had a mother who knew right
>from wrong and was not afraid to teach it to me. More
>than once I felt the "rod of correction" on my rear
>end, and I have no regrets about it.
>
>>When is this nonsense going to stop??? Before long we
>>are going to be like the wild west again, where
>>everyone is wearing a gun and you could get hung for
>>stealing a horse. Then again, maybe that's not such a
>>bad idea. Actually I was talking to my boss yesterday
>>and I think he had a good idea, maybe not original,
>>but good never the less. Rather than waste energy on
>>gun laws, because lets face it, not matter how you
>>feel about guns, laws governing them only apply to the
>>honest person, the criminal will still get what he
>>needs. Let's make the penalty for committing a crime
>>with a gun EXTREMELY harsh!!! Hey, armed robbery, life
>>in prison, illegal possession, 20 years minimum.
>>Maybe that will have a little more impact than trying
>>to pass more gun laws. Oh ya, this 15 year old
>>deviant that took 2 peoples lives and ruined many
>>more, first of all, try him as an adult!!!! Second of
>>all, put him away and throw away the key!!! I'm sick
>>and tired of people making people like him the victim.
>> "But he was picked on" , hey, so was I when I was in
>>school, but I never shot anyone, I learned to deal
>>with it and go on with life. The first portion of his
>>punishment should be to hand dig the graves of those
>>he shot.
>>Do I sound angry, well I AM!!! It's gotten to the
>>point that I'm afraid that if my wife gets in a fender
>>bender with someone, she stands the risk of being shot
>>because that person was having a bad day. Am I going
>>off on a tangent, I don't think so. It's our society
>>in general that's going to shit, and everybody is
>>pointing the finger at someone else, remember, when
>>you point your finger, there are three pointing back
>>at you!!!
>>O.K. I've spouted enough, later.
I understand where you are coming from. Yes I was athletic, but as I grew alot early, I was over 6' by the 7th grade, I was quite clumsy. This did incur quit a bit of teasing. While I know I didn't get it like others, I was more sympathetic because of it, and tried to dissuade my friends from picking on the smaller guys. But like you, I had good upbringing and knew right from wrong. I believe this kid did also, but beings they are all desensitised (sp?) to violence, figured this would be the way out.
I also agree with Kim, anyone who profits from others grief should be hung by their short and curlys!!! This goes for tragedies like this and even the Dale Earnhardt crash, some bozo wants to publish the autopsy photos, WHAT A SICKO!!! Let him rest in piece, please!!!!

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Lets face it!!!Shannon19:21:41 03/06/01 Tue
Re: Relo..Relo from StL07:02:28 03/07/01 Wed
marcKim07:28:25 03/07/01 Wed



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