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Date Posted: 10:46:51 02/06/02 Wed
In reply to:
Jim
's message, "Re: Lake Ontario King Salmon" on 07:15:56 02/06/02 Wed
>Great post man. I have to agree that most people don't
>have a clue how to fish for kings. That includes most
>of the guides that I've seen. Why anybody would go out
>and fish for a 30lb fish that has stuffed itself on
>baitfish it's entire life, and then tie on a size 12
>estaz fly is beyond me. Don't get me wrong, I have
>seen a few fish bite them, but your wasting your time
>with those trash flies if it is true biters your
>looking for. I fished Oak Orchard this fall in mid
>November(targeting browns). There were probably 30 or
>so spawned out kings in most of the holes. You should
>have seen them chasing down wooly buggers and
>streamers and BITING them. I'm not talking about the
>"salmon river DSR,line'em up, he's hooked right in the
>outside corner" type of bites either. I was stripping
>the fly slowly with no weight about 3 inches below the
>surface(water was LOW and clear) and watched them all
>chase it 3 to 8 feet before opening up and grabbing
>it. These fish were nasty too, all they had left to do
>was die. After hooking a few of them I started letting
>them spit the fly because I didn't want to have to
>deal with taking them off.Probably had 30 moldy kings
>and several moldy cohos bite that week(caught lots of
>fresh coho at burt dam).With all those bites stripping
>the fly, only one took it on a dead drift. My
>conclusion is that they prefer something swimming like
>the baitfish that grew them that big, rather than
>something drifted. Although I have had lots of luck
>drifting skein too, but not so much luck with the
>artificial egg patterns. I think that has something to
>do with scent. As for the salmon river and the leader
>laws, it doesn't really matter too me. After going
>there several years I have found it to be the most
>over rated river in the world. There are just too many
>lead chuckers there to get any fish to bite. They can
>make all the laws they want, but the worst thing going
>on in that river is chuck N duck. Without a doubt the
>most effective snagging tool ever invented, because
>the goofs actually think they are fishing. I guess
>it's all ok though, there going to die anyway.
I totally disagree with the comments above. I have fished the salmon river for kings for 22 years and have had very few kings hit a fly, but the cohos hit very well on the fly.So, please don't make it sound like its the fishermen and not the fish! I'll even go so far as to bet anyone here that they can't consistantly get kings to take a fly in two days on the salmon river. Let's say from route 2A to Altmar. On a weekend with lots of people around. I'll video tape the two days and we'll see who is fishing and who is snagging. I've been around enough guys who tell me they get them to hit and when I see them fishing, I see alot of line ripping and fast, high rod sticking. That's not a fish hitting, that's pooning! I want to see these kings chase down a fly and smash it. So, put your guides' licenses where your mouths are and let's see you work your magic. If I video tape six kings moving at least 3 feet to attack a fly, no dead drifting crap, I'll shut-up about the kings having to go. Otherwise, you guides back us here and help get rid of them.
Any interested parties, leave your email address here and I'll contact you to set things up for this fall.
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