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Subject: Hope all's well, AO! Author: Go Green [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 17:20:33 04/21/25 Mon In reply to: An Observer 's message, "Help Me Parent My Student-Athlete" on 09:45:27 03/13/25 Thu It's been a month since your last post! We miss you!!! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Would hate to think the Princeton gestapo succeeded in censuring AO, too! Author: Valmas (Stoic) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:05:32 04/23/25 Wed https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE0ZRq9ofwh/?igsh=MW9zMTZzb3pudjZucA== [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Would hate to think the Princeton gestapo succeeded in censuring AO, too! Author: Bengal [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:48:31 04/23/25 Wed The moderator, if he is the same dedicated stalwart who set this forum up, is not a Princeton alum. Still a good guy, though. 😂Cheers Valmas! Big baseball showdown this weekend! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Would hate to think the Princeton gestapo succeeded in censuring AO, too! Author: sparman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:32:02 04/23/25 Wed The moderator doesn't allow holtsledge to post here. Not good in my book. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Would hate to think the Princeton gestapo succeeded in censuring AO, too! Author: SpuytenDuyvil76 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 05:50:17 04/24/25 Thu Saw what you did there! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Would hate to think the Princeton gestapo succeeded in censuring AO, too! Author: SpuytenDuyvil76 (refer to Valmas below) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 05:56:06 04/24/25 Thu Captcha ??? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: I just don't know, B!?! Author: Valmas (Stoic) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:58:36 04/23/25 Wed We know AO put a lot into his craft - before his mysterious disappearance, anyway. Even so, he was zapped by the powers that be, a number of times, herein - too many times, if you're asking me, for a writer of An Observer's level of contributions and stature! Not to mention, all AO ever did to get on the Gestapo's bad side was dare to predict Xaivian Lee would return to Princeton this coming fall, for the chance to complete his degree requirements; to break the school's all time records for field goals attempted and missed shots; along with cashing in on a 33% raise on his current 75k honorarium - imagine that: missing 800 shots (more than Bradley, Petrie and Armond Hill) and getting paid for it, at a rate of a thousand per miss! Admittedly, you've got to be pretty good, simply to garnet an opportunity to miss eight hundred shots at Princeton. After all, Joe Scott and John Thompson would have never given a thought to permitting a run of the mill drunkard to attempt over one-thousand shots; which may have provided enough inspiration for Pete Hegseth to now set up shop in a more crisis-filled arena; and one in which he gets to miss as many shots as he damn well pleases, on daily basis and all at our expense. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I just don't know (perhaps inadvertently well said) Author: sparman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:37:31 04/24/25 Thu I suspect I will regret this - According to Sport Reference (and PU's website), in the course of his 3-year career, Lee missed 514 shots. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/xaivian-lee-1.html; also https://goprincetontigers.com/sports/2006/7/31/1623775?path=mbball While this was more than Hill (464), it was less than Petrie (644) or Bradley (811). [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: sparman: you're spinning and deflecting more than a drunken Secretary of Defense! Author: Valmas (Stoic) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:37:10 04/24/25 Thu Point being, given another year at Princeton, the grossly overrated Lee would easily add another 350 misses to his already questionable body of work! Not to mention, that Bradley and Petrie played without the benefit of the three point shot and still produced points per game averages that Lee has never come close - and never will, regardless of the uniform he dons or the amount of money he's paid to wear it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: sparman: you're spinning and deflecting more than a drunken Secretary of Defense! Author: sparman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:05:01 04/24/25 Thu I had thought you were a real facts, instead of an alternative facts, kind of guy. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: What alternative facts are you referring to, sparman? Author: Valmas (Stoic) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:37:18 04/25/25 Fri https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/5107169/xaivian-lee You, yourself, concede Xaivian's already missed well over 500 shots these past three years; and the number would be higher, but for the FACT that Lee didn't start a single game as a Princeton freshman. So he's accumulated more than 400 misses as a starting soph and junior, which is A LOT and there's nothing about Lee's shooting form to suggest he'll suddenly reinvent himself into a superior marksman during his final NCAA season - not even you, sparman, are delusional enough to pivot in that direction. Yes, I am hypothesizing about something we'll never get to witness; though it's a short leap of faith to believe that Lee would've miss enough shots as a Princeton senior to surpass Bradley's field goals missed mark. That stated, X would never come close to Dollar Bill's singular scoring production levels: 2,500 plus NCAA career points and more than 30 points per NCAA game. So, I ask you again, sparman, what alternative facts are you hanging your hat on this time? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I just don't know, B!?! Author: sparman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:24:03 04/25/25 Fri "imagine that: missing 800 shots (more than Bradley, Petrie and Armond Hill)" BTW no one here is pumping up Hegseth (and under forum rules, would not, as political commentary), so I suggest you take that elsewhere. But I submit that all our schools have some unsavory grads. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: That's weak, sparman! Author: Valmas (Stoic) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:28:23 04/25/25 Fri As much as it hurts you to imagine it, Lee would've gone over 900 misses in a Princeton uniform, in about ten months from this date; so consider yourself fortunate he's leaving! And Hegseth played Princeton basketball, too, so why should he be unmentionable, herein? While Columbia basketball did have Jack Molinas, it can at least be said that Jack paid the ultimate price for his transgressions. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Hope all's well, AO! Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:58:31 04/24/25 Thu Greetings, GG (and Michael)! Thank you for checking in, and for your original parenting suggestions at the top of this thread. I've been busy. Let's be clear. The post-war international trade regime which has developed/evolved/fallen into place since 1945 has benefitted America, this great country I love. That the costs and benefits of robust international trade accrue differentially to different parties is unfortunate, but not at all surprising. That the benefits accrue to everybody while the costs are borne most by the less educated, less economically productive members of the labor force is about as shocking -- shocking! -- as learning that there is gambling taking place in the casino. The greatest beneficiary of the post-WWII economic order is the United States of America. We're not the losers. We're the winners. We can do much to mitigate the costs borne by Rust Belt blue collar workers, but complaining about international trade by Americans is akin to winning the Super Bowl and then complaining about the refereeing. Yes, some calls were missed, including some important ones, but we won the game. We're the beneficiaries of trade. GG, I implemented in as robust a fashion as I could your recommendations to my daughter. I'm not sure how deeply she absorbed your/my/our suggestions, but she nodded and committed to being "the man" on her JV team. The team has been getting shellacked on the field and that is not helping, obviously, but I'm watching with concern and love. I don't want to mess this up. Michael, you of course are correct that I have been censored on this board on many an occasion. I can't remember if my comments about Xaivian Lee led to being censored, but they might have been. Obviously, I was wrong about Lee. Although, in my defense, I may end up being correct if he plays in Gainesville next winter and then drops out of U Florida to come back some time in the future for his Princeton degree. My opinion at that time was that no Asian/Korean parent was going to let his or her child walk away from a Princeton diploma. I may still end up being correct. Thanks for inquiring, and for your good wishes. My best to you all, and let's hope for the best for America. Cheers. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Great to have you back!! Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:43:26 04/24/25 Thu ... although I'm sorry to hear that soccer season isn't going as well as we hoped it would! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]