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Date Posted: 14:02:36 07/07/25 Mon
Regarding transfers: When Eisgruber was Provost, he was quoted in the PAW as saying we don't need transfers, we win without them. I wrote to him citing several instances, even by then, of how transfers affected league standings and championships in just football and basketball alone. I said, can't we include a few athletes among the transfers yearly so long as they meet the same academic standards other athletes must meet out of high school? He said yes. I thought he was just politely blowing me off, and then Stenstrom showed up. And then the pole vaulter and I believe a WIH player from Robert Morris. Even then, Samarra said he had no idea of the process or availability of an athletic transfer option at Princeton. The kid's brother was already on the roster and presumably that is how the interest started with his sibling at UCLA.
With the increase in the transfer program, I wrote now President Eisgruber about maybe having a few more than a few athletes in the transfer acceptances. This time he really did blow me off with a nonresponse. Might have been distracted by trying to figure out what to do with faculty participating in a building takeover, another one taking his lecture class into an encampment, and how many times to let fanatics interrupt a speaker before the fanatic is removed. (answer: 6 if it is a former Israeli PM, but now, after dealing with disruptors since the VietNam war, they have finally determined you only get one free disruption before purportedly you will be removed).
In talking with several HCs, the consistent response is, the transfer program really isn't for athletes. Makes me think the three I am aware of were rare instances that somehow worked out. Since my initial conversations, coaches also say that transferring credits is an obstacle. How that was managed with the three cases I am aware of I don't know. Our coaches will fall back on: its just as well, getting a transfer could be at least something of a negative upsetting others' expectations, anyway we want to develop our kids for 4 years etc etc. Except this latter thought is slowly being eroded as the transfer process spreads out beyond football and basketball in our league. Columbia loses a star baseball player, we lost a star WVB player. We really should have an athletic transfer program, even a steady couple of kids a year.
T81: I never count a recruit as on the roster until he/she shows up on campus, especially these days. Each year, a few commits bolt. One thing that is going on that might make that more likely, I think is: prior to the portal, the money, and the removal of the one-year required sitdown, high schoolers knew their competition for bigger time football was mainly other high schoolers. A college football coach might get a transfer once in a while, but hardly the situation now. So now some pretty good high school players, competing against other good h.s. players but also college players and not wanting to find out he can't get a serious big time offer, and not wanting to be left holding the bag altogether, is signing up somewhere. Including the Ivies. We have at least 21 by July 4! They are juniors still growing, developing etc. When they shine in the fall and big time coaches still have holes to fill, how likely do you think some Ivy recruits who committed before their first senior season game might bolt?
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