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Subject: Sam Miller transferring Author: ivy guy [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 12:36:12 07/05/25 Sat Columbia shortstop and unanimous Ivy League Player of the Year Sam Miller is transferring to the University of Florida Gators. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Should be interesing...... Author: Valmas (Stoic) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:27:45 07/05/25 Sat to see how Sam's batting average compares with Xaivian Lee's shooting percentage. Though, as we all know, depending on the sport, .333 may be viewed as actually contributing to a team's success. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Should be interesing...... Author: Ivy guy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:59:57 07/05/25 Sat From Gator press: Miller was the unanimous choice as Ivy League Player of the Year in 2025. An Ivy League release after Miller won the award said this about him: “The shortstop put together an impressive offensive season, leading the Ivy League in a handful of categories. He sat atop the Ivy League leaderboard with 63 hits, 14 home runs, 51 RBI, and a 1.049 OPS while ranking second with a .350 batting average. Miller had three times as many multi-hit games as he did hitless games, having at least two hits in 19 out of 41 games. His season-high four hits came during a 4-for-6 showing against Princeton where Miller hit a home run, scored two runs, and had four RBIs.” This transfer would fill the shortstop need, which was one of Florida’s biggest this offseason, along with catcher and pitcher. As Rudner noted, the Gators “are losing Colby Shelton to the pros so this is a huge add.” [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Should be interesing...... Author: The Mountain Lion [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:44:23 07/05/25 Sat Sam Miller is an outstanding baseball player who improved dramatically during his Columbia career. Miller is not only a terrific hitter, but an excellent fielder as well. I see Miller being drafted Sam Miller is an outstanding baseball player who improved dramatically while at Columbia. Miller will be a great addition to the Florida Gators. It would not be surprising if Miller leads the Gators to a national championship next year and then goes high in the MLB Draft [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: good for him Author: Lion Rooter [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:44:09 07/06/25 Sun So -he had another year of Ivy play left - and quit the Columbia team for a better deal - got it ! This is college sport now- whether a better program - higher visibility or more slush fund - or perhaps the Pros - could be worse I guess where hoops players might quit after a freshman season. well see ya later Miller - enjoy the rest of your baseball career! So much for team/school loyalty! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Sam Miller transferring Author: The Mountain Lion [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:29:31 07/07/25 Mon It is silly to criticize Sam Miller for taking the same path as numerous other outstanding Ivy League basketball and baseball players have taken during the last several years. The monetary incentives jointly approved by the courts, legislators and the NCAA are just too overwhelming to be ignored. Furthermore, it is unquestioned that the value of an Ivy League diploma has certainly diminished due to the foolish actions of certain of the students, faculty and administrators at all of the Ivy League schools, so taking a long-term view of the diploma's value is no longer helpful. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: American Amateur Sports Is About to Take A Serious Turn Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:19:22 07/07/25 Mon I posted to this effect after Xaivian Lee transferred to Florida for $6 million. No other college, neither Florida nor Harvard nor Penn, offered me $6 million to transfer to their school. So I'm not going to throw stones when I did not have the luxury of a glass house to live in. Did everybody follow that metaphor? But let's be clear. This -- the NILs and the transfer portal -- is bad for the eight Ivy universities. It's bad for amateur athletics. It's bad for the television and spectator product associated therewith. It's bad for American secondary education. It's bad for the lower socioeconomic class in this country. And for all these reasons, it's bad for America. The last little burst of Ivy success nationally, say, from 2018 through Memorial Day 2025, could be our alltime high water mark. I'm usually an optimist. Whenever my friends and colleagues complain about some contemporary problem, I tell them to take the longer view. From any kind of broader perspective, life in the US and around the world is so much better today, people in the 1950s and 1960s couldn't even imagine how much progress was possible. In the span of less than one lifetime, the quality of life on this planet has leapt forward. So I don't think I'm a glass half empty kind of guy. But amateur sports is about to take a serious turn for the worse. I'm glad that I got to enjoy as much of my life under the old regime as I did. Look back in ten or twenty years. I predict that the bottom 10-15% of the people in this country will make little or no progress economically, while the top third continue to thrive and flourish. One important reason will be American amateur sports. This is a social tragedy unfolding. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: We will see... Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:36:33 07/08/25 Tue I was at Yale's Elite Girls' Basketball camp last month. Yale could easily have fielded a highly competitive team consisting of the high school girls that attended camp that day. And I can only assume that--if academics aren't an issue--that many of the girls that I saw that day will suit up for other Ivies. Or was your point limited to men's sports? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: We will see... Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:26:27 07/08/25 Tue First and most importantly, congratulations again on your daughter being invited to the Yale recruiting/development camp. That's a big achievement in and of itself, regardless of where her athletic career goes from here. What a wonderful feather in her cap. My point is principally -- though not exclusively -- aimed at football and men's basketball. That's where the money will really start to affect high school sports and, as a result, high school education. Having said that, we've already seen a few transfers driven by NIL money in women's basketball and volleyball. So the phenomenon will not be limited to the highest profile sports. Anywhere a booster wants to win and is willing to pay to make it happen, the effect will be felt. Perhaps a bidding war will break out for your daughter. For your sake, I hope it happens. Is it good for American secondary education? No, it's terrible. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Thanks so much! Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:26:41 07/09/25 Wed As I said earlier, she did fine compared to her fellow rising freshmen. But she will need a lot of improvement to get to the level of some of the girls who were at the camp. I really don't know how girls' basketball recruiting works. Maybe some of the girls I saw that day will end up on Big East rosters. And even if my daughter does get offered a spot on an Ivy team, it would have to be a HELL of a lot of money for her to transfer elsewhere. I just don't see that happening in any universe... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Sam Miller transferring Author: The Mountain Lion [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:17:40 07/07/25 Mon Very well started, and I agree with you almost entirely, except for you last point. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Sam Miller transferring Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:51:09 07/07/25 Mon The ostriches still have their heads buried. This is 2025 folks. To paraphrase Rick Pitino, Bill Bradley ain't walking through that door, Calvin Hill ain't walking through that door. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]