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Subject: Re: Five-for-Five Impact?


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 13:57:27 04/24/26 Fri
In reply to: Greenhorn 's message, "Five-for-Five Impact?" on 10:53:57 04/24/26 Fri


Personally, I'd expect that even if the Ivy did go with the five-for-five rule, the overwhelming majority of our players would use the extra eligibility year at a graduate school.

And no--I do not expect the Ivy to ever lift its ban on grad students playing.

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observer
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Date Posted: 11:30:21 04/25/26 Sat

As long as Princeton doesn't have many graduate programs, there will never be grad eligibility in the Ivies. It would help Cornell, Columbia and Penn too much in the transfer market for HYP to approve.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Five-for-Five Impact?


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Bengal
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Date Posted: 13:51:57 04/28/26 Tue

Why would H or Yale go along with P if they feel grad availability helps them? I forget the issue now, but Walters once told me he was outvoted 7-1 on a mattter of some, albeit lesser importance.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Five-for-Five Impact?


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 14:07:41 04/28/26 Tue

Bengal, you have got to reach way back into the deep recesses of your brain to remember on what issue Walters was outvoted 7-1.

There are a number of topics on which I would be honored to be outvoted by seven other Ivy League universities.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: My guess...


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 14:54:05 04/28/26 Tue


... Walters was the lone vote against implementing the Ivy League lacrosse tournaments.

Can't imagine what else it would have been?

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An Observer
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Date Posted: 15:36:28 04/28/26 Tue

If Walters voted against the first Ivy League postseason in-conference tournament -- that of men's lacrosse -- which was proposed by his own coach Bill Tierney, that would certainly be one reason why the latter decamped for Denver.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Five-for-Five Impact?


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Bengal
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Date Posted: 15:12:37 04/28/26 Tue

It wasn’t that. It may have had to do with how the AI was applied, team by team or across the entire recruited class of athletes outside of football. I just can’t remember. I do remember him telling me we took fewer recruits than the League rules permit.

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Ivy ivy
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Date Posted: 12:01:05 04/28/26 Tue

Agreed. This could really actually benefit Ivies. So instead of those Princeton basketball players sitting out then going somewhere else, they could play 4 full years and still have another year to play elsewhere.

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[> [> [> Subject: Who Does This Help?


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An Observer
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Date Posted: 13:11:46 04/28/26 Tue

Excellent point, Ivy Ivy.

Right now, the outbound transfer portal acts as a sort of restrictor plate on the most aggressive recruiters in the Ivy League, most specifically Tommy Amaker. He recruits better players than the other Ivies, then loses them when they turn out to be just as good as advertised.

This will help Amaker somewhat, as he can now pitch the "Harvard for four, Big Ten or ACC for one" plan.

The real benefit will be for James Jones and Mitch Henderson, maybe Brett McConnell if he was the assistant who reeled in Tosan, Lee and Pierce. Yale and Princeton have had the problem where guys come in, develop and then become much BETTER than advertised. They leave for Michigan and Florida.

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