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Subject: FWIW


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 12:52:09 05/14/26 Thu
In reply to: voy vey 's message, "Re: P Class of '31" on 11:37:00 05/14/26 Thu


Both Teevens and Lyons have said that they lost most recruiting battles to Harvard and Princeton. They each indicated that they did better against Yale.

McCorkle hasn't addressed the subject yet, as far as I know. But honestly, he seems to be recruiting well. He's getting plenty of guys who had other impressive options.

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Date Posted: 13:30:47 05/14/26 Thu

One Ivy will "win" a recruiting battle with another Ivy, but I think it is usually difficult to tell exactly when that happens.

When I list "offers," it is based on the player's twitter feed and sometimes 247 or a similar site. But how firm the offer is is a separate question. Many are conditional. Our schools make dozens of offers beyond the recruiting number limits. If every kid listing an offer from any of our schools actually was admitted and matriculated, that team would have a 150-200 man roster.

In the case you mentioned, we would need to know which offered player was actually, really, and truly sought both by P and by Y or DC or both. Sometimes an article about a recruit will mention it was down to X or Y or Y, Z, and W, but that kind of information is best known by the coaching staffs. If coaches such as the Dartmouth coaches make observations about their comparative recruiting success, that is obviously informative.

I remember going back over our freshman class for a few years and looking at what other Ivies had "offered" them. We sometimes took double digits of kids who listed Ivy X. I never believed we "outrecruited" that school for every one of those kids, nor the converse where that same or other Ivy school had freshman in double digits who listed Princeton as offering them.

I do believe Princeton's recruiting picked up under Surace, who had the benefit of building and improving upon his predecessor's process.

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