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Date Posted: 06/20/07 1:39:24pm
Author: Markm
Subject: Re: Questions Regarding the New Hunting Regulations
In reply to: wayne davis 's message, "Re: Questions Regarding the New Hunting Regulations" on 06/19/07 9:33:45pm

Wayne,

What change can you honestly say will make hunters buy a hunting license here in florida? Those people go to other States for Leases, they don't hunt in georgia WMAs so how can you say what is going to bring back the license decline or even hint that something has to change for that to happen?

Let's look at the three point rule; will this raise the harvest rate? will this raise the herd numbers? What exactly with confidence will the three point rule do? give a bigger horn Mast, how about a heavier deer! Will this rule bring hunters back to florida?

how about the quota system: Non-transferable versus Treansferable, What can be done or will this in and of itself bring the hunters back?

More land: we are getting more land open every year, not open year round and they're small parcels but non the less more land!

More Opurtunities: Youth hunts, Family hunts, hog only hunts, Special hog hunts also, The FWC youth hunt is in full swing also...


The FWC harvest rate for WMAs are out for last year, 4800 deer were taken last year from 103 WMAs, that averages out to 45 deer per WMA! 2700 hogs were taken last year... there were 250,000 licenses sold there abouts!

Armed with this info and the knowledge that it's highly unlikely any change in the Rules for WMA hunting will bring back Hunters, the stakeholders need to focus on what will bring the herd numbers up and give the resident public hunter a better chance at harvesting a deer! If any changes need to be made it should be about that, not something that is wishful thinking!

Those hunters who want to shot eight points or better can do that with or without a change, making the comment that they have to shot the spike that walks by because someone else might is BS thinking and more of a winners atitude! If i want meat in my freezer not horns on my mantle I should be able to do that also!

As for any changes, yes we need a few, but it's for the betterment of both hunter and deer, if we as hunters and stakeholders can find a way to do that then I'm for it but to make a change just for guestimation, hell no! We're along way from having the RIGHT answer i think!

By the way, hunting license sales are down accross the country, so it's not just about Florida!

Mark





>Travis,
>
>Great post!......and you need to be concerned. The
>meetings going on now will change Florida's deer
>hunting for many years to come. Like you, most do not
>want to see a shorter season, but something has to
>give.
>
>The way things are now the FWC see's hunters
>disappearing at a alarming rate. If they don't or
>cannot change this trend then we will see hunter being
>pushed out by other users. This has already happened
>on many public area's. If you look at all the new
>state own public area's that have come into the WMA
>system over the pass 10 years or so you will see that
>just about all are quota hunts with short seasons.
>
>There's only a few way's that the FWC is going to
>attract more hunters that I can see. Make the hunting
>better (more bucks to hunt or distrube what we have
>more evenly among hunters); make more land available
>to hunt at prices people can afford; and make the
>quota system fair.
>
>By working with the Stakeholders groups the FWC is
>trying to unite the hunters into one strong vocie so
>they can get the funding to carry out good deer
>management. At this point I don't see that happening
>because most of the Stakeholders represents different
>hunters and no body wants to to give an inch, or they
>want no change at all. Since hunter numbers in Florida
>are declining, I don't think no change at all, is an
>option for the FWC.
>
>In your post you indicated that you could live with
>some kind of bag limits and antler restrictions. This
>is what the Stakeholders needs to be asking the
>hunters that they represent, what can we live with,
>because change is coming. If we don't want shorter
>seasons, then the only options/tools the FWC has is
>bag limits and antler restrictions for the short term.
>We would all like to see more land open up to hunting,
>and more food plots, but that's not going to happen
>anytime soon, if at all.
>
>So the way I see it is we better start deciding what
>kind of bag limits and antler restrictions that most
>of us can live with, because change is coming.

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