Interesting! It does depend on the definition of friendship, and you are right about the issue of trust and the completely unbalanced power dynamic. I sometimes think that they both recognized that John's "control" over Jamie was nominal since they acknowledged each other as men of honor, and that the whole tartan/beating episode was one way for Jamie to demonstrate that he is master of his own fate. In any case, I think although they were constrained from being actual friends, there was something more than just passing the time. I guess I felt that there was an unpsoken acknowledgment that they might actually have been friends had the circumstances been otherwise. But perhaps I used the word "friendship" too casually above -- there was some kind of mutual recognition and connection, but it was completely limited, first by their relative stations, and then by John's ill-advised overture. -- LJG Discussion board

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Date Posted: 14:27:25 10/23/07 Tue
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Subject: Interesting! It does depend on the definition of friendship, and you are right about the issue of trust and the completely unbalanced power dynamic. I sometimes think that they both recognized that John's "control" over Jamie was nominal since they acknowledged each other as men of honor, and that the whole tartan/beating episode was one way for Jamie to demonstrate that he is master of his own fate. In any case, I think although they were constrained from being actual friends, there was something more than just passing the time. I guess I felt that there was an unpsoken acknowledgment that they might actually have been friends had the circumstances been otherwise. But perhaps I used the word "friendship" too casually above -- there was some kind of mutual recognition and connection, but it was completely limited, first by their relative stations, and then by John's ill-advised overture.
In reply to: MelvaT 's message, "Sorry Jane, I have to disagree with you here. Not that you're wrong, *G* it's just that my definition of friendship includes so much more than good conversation with an equally intelligent person. Jamie and LJG may have found hundreds of interesting topics to discuss, but I believe it simply gave them both a small way to "escape" prison-life and to forget they were both being punished. They weren't friends at this point. You have to be able to trust a friend, and there's no way Jamie could trust LJG with anything that might endanger his family. And how could you possibly be friends with someone who holds the power and control of your life and freedom?" on 13:27:03 10/23/07 Tue

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