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Date Posted: 19:37:25 09/29/07 Sat
Author: GwenM
Subject: Sorry - ONCE AGAIN. I see NO exasperation with Claire on Jamie's part. Claire was NEVER out-of-line in this exchange. Jamie is in NO WAY upset with Claire here. Jamie would never choose John over Claire in ANY situation. This is Jamie AND Claire's house and it was JOHN being disrespectful - to Claire.
In reply to: pamelalass 's message, "Sorry to hijack this thread into a discussion of a non-BOTB scene! It's always intriguing to me how some of DG's pivotal or intense scenes leave room for various interpretations. I can certainly see outrage at John alone as one way to interpret this scene but I've always found additional undercurrents here, and find the scene both emotional and humorous. It's only my take on it, of course, and it's colored by what comes after, when the two men share such a laugh over Willie's misadventure, and then stay up half the night talking. It's no wonder Claire was not inclined to be friendly to John, but at this stage Jamie seems more than ready to welcome John as a friend whose company he genuinely enjoys. >>>" on 17:43:43 09/29/07 Sat


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  • I agree. DG writes in such a way that she gives us information, and we fill in the blanks. How the blanks are filled tends to vary, and I think that some readers surprise Herself when they don't seem to pick up on the "clues" that she leaves, but I think that for the most part we end up on the right track, tho' taking different byways. My take on this scene was that Jamie simply wanted to end the exchange before it went any further. LJG and Willie's arrival put the adults on edge. Claire had already been short with LJG, and he had come back with the uncalled for comment. Jamie was angry at the turn things were taking and letting that anger out let him take control, his version of throwing cold water on the situation, and it worked. Both stepped back, took a look at their actions, and apologized, as Jamie had likely known both would, once their cooler heads had a chance to prevail. That LJG did reveal some of his inner thoughts and feelings was a neat bonus. (NT) -- Lady Jay, 08:49:22 09/30/07 Sun

  • Yes, "throwing cold water" on it - that's what I was trying to say, only you captured it so much better! And reading this new book does make me look at some of my favorite parts of the older books with new eyes - - as you say, John's comment is kind of a bonus to the reader (though clearly nothing of the sort for Claire and Jamie!), and I hadn't thought of it that way before. It's part of his richness as a character, that he's not perfect, and acts like a jerk sometimes. (NT) -- pamelalass, 15:11:32 09/30/07 Sun

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