Exactly! John's friendship with Brianna is the thing that just put me over the edge in love with him... *G* He's gallant and charming, yet not afraid to "mix it up" with her, because he appreciates her as a woman of sharp wits and keen intellect, as well as strength of character and personal honor. He just never falls into the trap of treating a woman like a shrinking violet, even when Bree <I>is</I> actually vulnerable and in need of an ally. He is flirtatious in precisely the right amount, and during their faux engagement his devotion to her actually becomes something lovely and genuine. He just makes it his business to keep her amused, secure, occupied, and, well, <I>nurtured</I>, in a way. It all adds up to make him irresistible! -- LJG Discussion board

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Date Posted: 15:45:56 10/12/07 Fri
Author: pamelalass
Subject: Exactly! John's friendship with Brianna is the thing that just put me over the edge in love with him... *G* He's gallant and charming, yet not afraid to "mix it up" with her, because he appreciates her as a woman of sharp wits and keen intellect, as well as strength of character and personal honor. He just never falls into the trap of treating a woman like a shrinking violet, even when Bree is actually vulnerable and in need of an ally. He is flirtatious in precisely the right amount, and during their faux engagement his devotion to her actually becomes something lovely and genuine. He just makes it his business to keep her amused, secure, occupied, and, well, nurtured, in a way. It all adds up to make him irresistible!
In reply to: tlk2vicki 's message, "And then he meets his match in Brianna! Her 20th century bravado catches him a bit off-guard. He tells her he actually likes women quite a bit even though he chooses not to take them to his bed. Bree accepts him (and vice versa) because he does respect her so much." on 14:39:46 10/12/07 Fri

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Yes, I don't understand the people who think Isobel was "cheated," having John for a husband. He'd undoubtedly treat her in this fashion, *and* have considerate, thoughtful sex with her. I don't think she would even be aware of the side of him that told Percy, "Yes, I am a beast. Make the best of it." (NT) -- maddiej, 15:08:51 10/13/07 Sat
- Would Isobel want "considerate, thoughtful" sex all the time - or a little "beast" now and then??? Me?? - some of both. (NT) -- GwenM, 16:56:23 10/13/07 Sat
  - We don't really know anything about Isobel yet, so who knows? (NT) -- MsNaugha, 18:18:12 10/13/07 Sat
- Ooh, just seeing this now, and I very much like your connection of his manner with Bree to his role as a husband. I don't know why I hadn't thought of it, but it's entirely possible Isobel's experience was as delightful, or more so, as Bree's. Especially since she might not have had Bree's - - and ours - - modern sensibility about romance, sex, and marriage flowing seamlessly together. It's easy to forget that the emotional, spiritual, and utterly romantic connection between Jamie and Claire would not necessarily have characterized many 18th century marriages, especially among people of the Dunsany's and Grey's social position. But Isobel could indeed have cherished having John's devotion as a huband who was also a true friend. (NT) -- pamelalass, 08:52:39 10/14/07 Sun

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