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Date Posted: 20:18:38 09/23/07 Sun
Author: KathleenM
Subject: Marilyn, just a quick note--I think Jamie is pretty understanding considering what he is going through himself. I might have killed John had he said what he did under the circumstances. Remember that Jamie is suffering guilt for Geneva's death and reliving his own losses--Claire, his family at Lallybroch, Scotland and freedom, to name some significant ones--so he is not in the best position to be "understanding." John Grey is responsible for some of his misery and I think it would be less realistic if Jamie were to be accepting of such a dramatic deviation of 18th C morals and attitudes. And we do know that later . . .well, I for one eagerly await "Lord John and the Scottish Prisoner." ;-)
In reply to: Marilyn 's message, "Lord John" on 16:40:47 09/23/07 Sun


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  • Considering Jamie's experiences with Black Jack Randall, I can totally understand him being a bit anti-homosexual. (NT) -- Lady Orelia, 23:44:10 09/23/07 Sun

  • Jamie was able to laugh off and make a funny story out of his earlier experience with the homosexual advances made by the foppish duke, and IMHO he knew Black Jack was something rather different, a rapist and sadist who took pleasure in control and pain, and tried to commit similar crimes against women as well, though perhaps not with the same intensity. I think here, though, his homophobic hostility stems more from his rage at John for keeping him stashed in England, away from his men, his suffering over the loss of Claire, and anguish and anger over Geneva's death (which would remind him of his fear for Claire). It's true that his intolerance, which is so deeply insulting to John, could accurately reflect dominant attitudes in 18th century Britain, but I do think he is actually trying to be hurtful to John here, and that his earlier joking about the duke shows that he's actually inclined to be more tolerant. We know he will be later (The Scottish Prisoner can't come soon enough!). (NT) -- pamelalass, 06:24:30 09/24/07 Mon

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