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Subject: Re: Red coats and ham!

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Sue G.

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Date Posted: 08:46:05 01/20/06 Fri
In reply to: Sue G. 's message, "Re: Red coats and ham!" on 15:27:03 01/19/06 Thu

I also saw the two Blackbeard's in production out at the IMDb database. Isn't it ironic that Blackbeard had been the main topic on this Website now for several weeks and none of us knew about new movies in production? We all must have had a 'feeling' something was coming along (I still will always regard RN as Blackbeard, though!).
I have read Jamaica Inn but many years ago. I was a big fan of Daphne DuMaurier in HS & read many of her books. I must say that I cannot remember much of the book now, but this gives me an excuse to read it again. Actually, I did re-read a DuMaurier book last year, 'The House on the Strand', and it has renewed my interest in her books. One of her books that I have always liked, even better than JI, is 'Frenchman's Creek'. Have you ever read it? It's about a pirate!!! There was also a movie made in 1944 (I already looked in the IMDb database) starring Joan Fontaine and Auturo deCordova and apparently a remake for TV in 1998. I will have to re-read that book too.
I like Emlyn Williams in both JI and Hatter's Castle, but the characer he played in HC is a totally different one than the one in the book. The book's character was a much more sympathetic and likeable person (that's what I mean by changing the characters and the story from the book). However, Emlyn Williams was probably better as a 'dastardly villain' so they decided to change the script to make him more 'interesting'.
'Man About A Dog' is out of print so I had to get a used copy. Seeing the movie piqued my interest & I had to get the book (knowing that books are more detailed). But, to answer your question, yes, there is more animal (and human) abuse in the book than the movie. However, no details are described on how 'things' are done!! I've noticed the books from that generation don't go into 'gory' details but the thought is still there!
And I will leave you with that thought (just a little humor)!

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Re: Red coats and ham!

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Sue G.
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Date Posted: 12:05:11 01/20/06 Fri

BTW..... 'A Man About a Dog' was the title published in England. The book was apparently known as 'Over The Line' here in the states and it was written by Alec Coppel. So we have two movie titles: 'Obsession' and 'The Hidden Room' and two book titles: 'A Man About a Dog' and 'Over The Line'. How is that for confusion? Just in case you want to check to library again try for 'Over the Line'.

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Obsession by any other name

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Susan
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Date Posted: 14:26:06 01/20/06 Fri

Alas, the only Alec Coppel items owned by our entire county library system are "The Gazebo: a play in two acts" and the movie "Vertigo," for which he wrote the screenplay. Wow, so many titles for that story--which one do you think is most appropriate? (Hmm, "Over the Line" is kind of interesting if you think about the story!)

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Re: Obsession by any other name

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Sue G.
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Date Posted: 09:23:41 01/24/06 Tue

'Over the Line' certainly fit in with both the book and the film. However, 'Man About a Dog' had a catch to it also because that was how the inspector was first introduced in the story (looking for Storm's dog). I wonder why they felt the need in many instances to change the title of a film from that of the book it was based on? And why films (and books) titles were changed from one country to another (Obsession in the UK, The Hidden Room in the US...Man About a Dog in the UK and Over the Line in the US..it can get confusing).
Some day we will have to start a discussion on this film. For instance,have you ever thought how in the world he kept a person chained up in a room (I guess it was a bomb shelter left from the war) for months and no one ever heard a thing. Clive had to have visited that place a couple of times a day to keep Bill fed. No one ever caught on to him 'slipping away' every day, including weekends, with food. Another thing, if Bill had used his head, he could have feigned illness to get Clive near him so he could overtake him.In fact, why he didn't get ill living in a damp basement for months (with no heat, from the looks of it), is a little puzzling.
And you're right, Susan, why didn't Clive just kill Storm? However,that would not make for as good a move as this was. I was never sure if Clive really loved Storm or he was just bent on revenge for her numerous affairs because he felt betrayed.
These are just some 'observations' about the film that I thought might spark up some conversation.
It is still one of my favorite RN films. And I think he looks 'good' in it!

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