"Glad All Over" -- For fans of the Dave Clark Five
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RIP, Michael George Smith,
Dec. 6, 1943 to Feb. 28, 2008.
One of the greatest voices in rock 'n' roll has been silenced. Thank you, Mike, for the memories and the music and the pure joy of "Glad All Over."
RIP, Denis West Payton
Aug. 11, 1943 to Dec. 17, 2006.
Thanks, Denis. We'll always remember.
- Festive records -- The Cat, 10:48:10 11/14/09 Sat [1]
Did The Dave Clark Five ever record/release any festive/Christmas tracks?
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- Mike d'Abo -- Jeff, 16:11:21 11/09/09 Mon [1]
The below link is to an interview with Mike d'Abo. He talks about Mike and the album they made together; he clearly liked Mike. The interview as a whole is very interesting as Mike discusses Mannfred Mann and even The Band of Angels. He sounds like a very good guy.
The text on the page is in Spanish but the interview is in English. It's about a half hour.
http://www.trilogyrock.com/podcast/121-entrevista-mike-dabo-manfred-mann-band-of-angels-solitari.php
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- History -- Termite Johnny, 18:14:12 11/07/09 Sat [1]
For those who missed it the first time..........now the History album is available on Itunes. Now they have two albums with pretty much the same songs available on Itunes.
Such a dilemma. Which one to buy.
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- high priced and Mulberry Tree -- rob m, 09:54:55 10/25/09 Sun [1]
Recently I saw "The Hits" CD for sale, for the first time at a local electronics outlet for $27.99. Come on, Why is DC doing this? Four songs that were not on the "History" CD is not gonna get me to buy it. I went to amamzon and purchased "hit collection" for $12.99 plus shipping. Yeah the liner notes suck, no writer credits but there are about 15 songs not on "History." I can't think of a similar single CD similarly priced. The Beatles & Apple bundled Past Masters I and II at
$ 19.99. Lastly,can somebody tell me who wrote Mulberry Tree? Where did this cool song come from? Rob M
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- Right or Wrong? -- Brenda Tseunis, 11:08:55 10/30/09 Fri [1]
Just something to think about; right or wrong, and keep in mind that I loved the DC5 as much as anyone, and loved Den with all of my heart. We even discussed this exact subject. I work for a major aviation company, and if I invent something while I’m working for them, my company takes the credit for it. And then they sell that idea or product for profit. I get a certain amount, but only what’s in my contract. The company's name goes on the product. That’s the contract I signed going to work for them and the choice I made. Right or wrong, and even if I don’t agree with it now, that’s the way it is. I’m certain you’ve all heard the saying; it’s business, not personal; harsh but true. The other four agreed to this going in. If they were unhappy with it, there was nothing stopping them from fighting it. So why is it our job then to judge?
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- Cover song -- Jörgen Sweden, 00:58:04 10/31/09 Sat [1]
Anyone heared of Rosetta Stone? On there album Rock Picture from 1978 I found a cover of the Mike Smith song Free as a bird.
You can listen to it on Spotify. http://www.spotify.com/en/
(My favorite streaming programe) Swedish of course......
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- DC5 miming in concert -- GB, 04:07:12 10/26/09 Mon [1]
I read this on another oldies music board:
Something that's been knawing at my mind for a few years and maybe someone can confirm or deny it. I saw the Dave Clark 5 in Memphis in '64 (best I remember, the ticket stub is here somewhere). The opening act was a local garage band called Randy & The Radiants whose drummer I went to school with. It was my first concert and was great but years later the drummer's brother, who I worked with, told me that the DC5 had mimed the show and Dave Clark used paper drum sticks. It had to do with the echo they used that at the time they couldn't reproduce on stage. The drummer went on to play with Jimmy Buffet & The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band before an untimely death at a young age. Can anyone shed any light on this being true. I hate to say my friend didn't know the truth since it was pretty first hand with no reason to lie. thanks
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do you mean paper drum skins rather than drum sticks? There are many stories of Clark miming while in concert although no one has ever stood up and openly said they were there and saw it.
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According to the story from the Radiant's drummer he used the paper inserts that go across the bottom of a coathangar. The brother that told me this story is not one to create nor embellish a story so I can't help but put lots of credibility to it.
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- DC on TV -- JB, 08:42:14 10/13/09 Tue [12]
For anyone in the USA who didn't see Dave Clark being interviewed on the UK show “Later…with Jools Holland”. The whole show is being broadcast on USA Ovation TV on October 15th at 9pm Eastern, 8pm Central, 7pm Mountain, 6pm Pacific
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- Bobby Graham's Beatle Session? -- Termite Johnny, 05:06:50 10/26/09 Mon [1]
it has been reported as fact that the Stereo version of the Beatles's "Can't Buy Me Love" has different drumming in the mix than the mono version. Also it's been logged in at EMI that a drummer was paid a union fee for a session related to that track during the time Ringo would not be available due to filming "A Hard Day's Night". Could that session player be our beloved Bobby G?
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- Production -- Chad, 05:35:28 10/20/09 Tue [19]
Here's a new one. We've heard about DC's singing and musical ability in the familiar negative tones. Haven't heard anything about his production of the records one way or the other. Was this legit or is someone going to say he didn't produce them?
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- Looking for record collectors -- Greg, 15:28:19 10/24/09 Sat [1]
Are you interested in old records ?
Please join the Music Collectables Interest Group:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/musiccollectables
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- Rick Huxley's Bass Guitars -- andrew redding, 06:23:19 10/24/09 Sat [1]
does anyone know the specs of the fender jazz bass he used, whilst with the DC5?
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- DVD -- Greg, 21:09:35 10/20/09 Tue [2]
I saw Mike and His Rock Engine in Arlington, MA on March 13, 2003.
There was recording equipment there for this show and from what I hear some or all of the dates on this tour. My question is : where is the DVD or at least a CD from this tour???? I'm not getting any younger !
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- Re: DVD -- Jason, 14:06:09 10/23/09 Fri
- Any 60s and 70s music fans out there???? NOT DC5 related! -- Gary B, 04:18:25 10/15/09 Thu [13]
Let's see if we can help Mark out!
Gary
"Hello! My name is Mark Amans.
I have recently finished a book about all the years I worked with rock and roll bands in the '60s and '70s. I was on the road for eighteen years. They used to call me Hoss. I started in Seattle with a group called The Viceroys in 1963. Then a group called The Wailers. I joined Paul Revere and The Raiders in late 1965 when they had just signed with Columbia Records and Dick Clark Productions for a TV show called Where The Action Is. In 1967 I worked for The Blues Magoos. We did a major tour with Herman's Hermits, and The Who. The tour manager put me in charge of all three road crews.
In late 1967 I went to work with a group called The Robbs, who I met on a Dick Clark Caravan of Stars Tour when I was with The Raiders. Back in New York in early 1968 I worked for The Nazz. Todd Rundgren came out of that group. In late 1969 I went back to work for Mark Lindsay and The Raiders. Then I worked for The Grass Roots in 1970. In 1971 I worked with Gary Puckett and The Union Gap. In 1972 I was the road manager and bodyguard for Cat Stevens. In 1973 I worked for Wolfman Jack as a tour manager. In the rest of the seventies I worked on and off with a few groups that never made it big. One of them was called The Butts Band, started by John Densmore and Robby Krieger from The Doors.
The manuscript tells stories about all the individuals and the bands as a whole. There are twenty-two chapters and many original pictures telling good things and bad things that happened to me while working on and off the road. One chapter is called 'The Mania.' It is about the fans that came to the concerts. Another chapter is called 'Being There.' It tells about close calls and hard work of traveling on the road by aircraft, car and bus. Another chapter is called 'Live Sound and Recording and How it Changed.' I literally saw thousands of rock and roll bands in those days. There are many more chapters. No one else was in this position at this time.
If you were a fan and in your early 20’s or teens in the '60s or '70s this will definitely give you some fond memories. It has me. I have sent my manuscript to some agents in New York and they were telling me that there was no market for this. They don’t seem to understand that 25 percent of the population of the United States is Baby Boomers. That means you were there. I NEED YOUR HELP to prove these agents wrong by contacting me at hossroadmanager@aol.com and tell me that you would like to see it come to publication. If I get enough e-mails I can go straight to the publishers and eliminate the agents.
I would appreciate your help. Thank you very much and be sure to tell all your friends to also e-mail me.
Sincerely,
Hoss
Santa Barbara, CA
P.S. Please include in your e-mail your name, city, and state."
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- Licensing Songs -- Jerry, 09:23:22 10/14/09 Wed [4]
There have been many comments on this site about the lack of DC5 material on the radio (except some Oldies stations), on screen, and on compilations and on tribute records. I have been listening to a recent Fats Domino tribute album, featuring great versions of many of his songs. The DC5 did a high energy shouted version of Blueberry Hill and Mike, on his It's Only Rock and Roll, did a very nice version of Blue Monday. My query concerns how the DC5 and Mike Smith versions of these songs, and other covers, find their way onto these type of albums. Is someone or something making it difficult for this to happen? What other obstacles are there? The Randy Newman version of Blue Monday on the Fats Domino tribute is serviceable, but I think Mike's version is better, mainly because Mike has such a strong vocal on his version.
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- Country music? -- Ron Ryan, 00:01:22 10/11/09 Sun [4]
Whilst I know that this board is dedicated to the DC5, I thought it might interest some to know that the writer of some of the biggest hits of the DC5 has a passion for Country music. In fact although I gigged with the likes of 'Gene Vincent', and 'Bill Haley', the best was touring on a Country show and rooming with an unknown Country singer (at the time)called 'Willie Nelson'. I tried to get Dave to record a few of my Country songs to widen their appeal, but he was not a fan of Country music. But Mike shared my love for it, and we often sat at my piano singing songs like 'You're cheating heart', 'You win again', 'He'll have to go' and songs like that. In fact as I have said before I wrote 'Bit's and pieces' as an up-tempo Country song!!But Dave did not like the format, and so Mike mixed it with another song of mine I had played to them 'Keep on Stompin', and the rest you know. If you go to my site you can hear some of my Country songs, or go to youtube and type in 'Ron Ryan, the Nassington Flyer', the title track of my biggest selling album, there are some great players on that Album, all British and Irish.
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- From 1967 forward -- Jeff, 08:19:00 07/25/09 Sat [15]
As it's been a little quiet here lately...Anyone have any ideas about why the group (or DC himself) stopped using original songs as A sides from 1967 on?
Certainly "Inside and Out" is a much better track than it's A side "Everybody Knows"; indeed a more schizophrenic bracing of tracks is incomprehensible. "Maze of Love" is far better than "Red Balloon", "Forget" much better than "Please Stay". "34-06" and "Darling I Love You" also outshine their A sides.
You could make the argument that in the UK their record sales went up with the move to covers, but in the US they were done in by the change. Maybe Epic should have tried pushing the flip sides in the States. In the Washington DC area where I'm from, WINX radio actually was playing "Inside and Out" rather than "Everybody Knows".
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- Aside to Roger -- Vic, 21:45:05 10/12/09 Mon [1]
Bobby Graham passed away last month after a long battle with cancer.
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- Band, or a Business? -- Ron Ryan., 06:08:50 10/08/09 Thu [13]
I see that it has been mooted here on this board that some touring UK Bands did not 'get along' with the DC5. I would think that (and it's only my humble opinion) the main problem was the way the Band was run. Most, if not all Bands back then were run on a co-op basis, I.E. the money made from Gigs, records, radio work, TV work etc would be split evenly between the members of the Band, less a set percentage to their Manager. But that was not the case in the DC5. Dave paid the Band members a 'set wage', and by the wages of the normal 'Working Class' young man at the time it was a very good wage. But when you take into account what Dave was asking for a Gig and making on record Royalties,Radio, and TV, it was not such a good deal for the Band members. I think word got round that Dave was running the Band like a business, and the other Band members were just 'hired help' the other Bands thought it was wrong. That's the only explanation I can come up with as the Lads in the Band (apart from Dave) were normal, likeable young men, and got on very well with everyone.
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- Was the DC5 a 'Dance Band'?? -- Ron Ryan., 03:51:59 09/27/09 Sun [42]
I see questions have been raised here about the DC5 and what kind of music they played before they 'made it'. Also Dave only 'playing brushes'. I know what I saw and heard back then, but to get the record straight I asked the guitarist in the Band before Lenny, my Brother Mick, and here is a snippet from the long email he sent me. Quote ' We played lots of 'Rock Instrumentals like 'Guitar Boogie shuffle' and all the Rock Instrumentals from people like 'Duane Eddie'. 'We never played 'Dance Band Music', we played to the Teenagers and they wanted, 'Pop'and Rock& Roll' and that's what we played' When we played the 'Tottenham Royal' we were on with a 'Dance Band' and they played 'Dance Music' for the older people there, but we played the 'beat Music'. Dave might have used brushes on one particular song, but I don't remember him playing brushes' unquote. Well there you have it from the 'horses mouth', Mick was there, he was a featured member of the Band, and I have seen the kids all stop dancing and gather round the stage many times at the Tottenham Royal, and the Dance hall in Bruce Grove when he played 'Guitar Boogie shuffle' (you can see him on Youtube still playing it). Now I don't say that when the DC5 were playing American USAF Bases in England, and they played an 'Officers Club' that they did not play a bit of 'Dance music' as well as their normal set, but on their main Gigs they were a 'Rock Band', and Dave left his brushes at home.
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- Another drumming question -- Vic, 22:48:34 03/20/09 Fri [70]
Reading the articles in "Ugly Things," I noticed this quote from Adrian Kerridge:
"Sometimes for weight of sound, drums were augmented. Bobby Graham sometimes used to work with Dave and they'd play together in unison; it gives that weight. There's a difference between overdubbing and having two drummers live -- a big difference because of the excitement in the room; it's a big sound."
Has anyone heard of this before? Can anyone point out a track where it sounds as though two drummers are playing simultaneously? Is it likely this happened, or is this another way to "finesse" the issue of Bobby Graham playing on the hits?
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- Blog Article on DC5 U.S. Singles -- Margate Music Man, 17:14:47 10/05/09 Mon [5]
Hi All,
I've just posted a feature on the DC5's U.S. singles on my blog, any comments / opinions / corrections welcomed on there:
http://themargatemusicman.blogspot.com/2009/10/dave-clark-five-us-singles-1963-1973.html
Thanks for viewing!
Peter C.
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- RIP, Bobby Graham -- Vic, 16:00:16 09/15/09 Tue [60]
Sad to report that legendary session drummer Bobby Graham passed away yesterday (Sept. 14) from stomach cancer at age 69.
Bobby played drums on most of the DC5's US hits.
http://entertainment.oneindia.in/music/international/2009/bobby-graham-dies-cancer-150909.html
Condolences to his family and friends.
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- Re: RIP, Bobby Graham -- Shackman, 03:20:18 09/17/09 Thu
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