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Subject: Re: Faith is Arbitrary Choice

Author:
Clement LO

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Date Posted: 03:45:45 04/13/05 Wed
In reply to: Liberal 's message, "Faith is Arbitrary Choice" on 03:26:41 04/13/05 Wed

你不要混亂知識論上的信心，同宗教全人的信心 wor...

宗教上的信心涉及好多文化社會同心理的構成因素。。。

>There is an argument that there are something we
>cannot know and we need "faith" to determine to accept
>or reject them. To describe such an activity more
>clearly, I will use the term Arbitrary Choice in place
>of "faith." The Choice is Arbitrary because while
>there are plenty of "evidences" supporing the Choice,
>opposite "evidences" of comparable amount and strength
>exist (otherwise, "faith" will not be needed, e.g.,
>faith is not needed to accept existence of an outbreak
>of fatal pneumonia in Hong Kong in 2003).

［這裏開始概念滑轉］

Some people
>accept that the Being/Ultimate Being/Other/Most
>High/Ground of Being/etc is "personal" by Arbitrary
>Choice, some don't. Some people accept that the
>"personal" Being/etc "reveals" to the human race, some
>don't. Some people accept that the "revelation" is in
>the form of an ancient book, some don't. Some people
>accept that the "personal" Being/etc became a
>particular person in history, some don't. The list of
>examples can go on infinitely.

In the examples given
>above, those who make Arbitrary Choices to accept the
>propositions are not making better or worse choices
>than those who make Arbitrary Choices to reject, so
>their Choices are Arbitrary.

Arbitrary Choices have
>the benefit of producing psychological comfort (sense
>of certainty) by providing "answers" to uncertain
>issues. But the number of Arbitrary Choices should be
>kept to a minimum because an Arbitrary Choice
>discourages and erects restriction(s) on continual
>exploration of the true answer. Historically,
>Arbitrary Choices ("faith") from the Church have
>jeopardised science for centuries and caused execution
>countless scientists. Fortunately, Physics and
>Biology are being done without religious Arbitrary
>Choices ("faith") today. Human beings are seekers of
>true answers and minimizing Arbitrary Choices
>facilitates the search.

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Subject	Author	Date
Re: Faith is Arbitrary Choice	Bystander	04:25:19 04/13/05 Wed
Re: Faith is Arbitrary Choice -- Clement LO, 10:37:59 04/13/05 Wed
Good point	Liberal	10:34:38 04/13/05 Wed
Re: Good point -- 蒲生, 11:00:10 04/13/05 Wed Re: Origen -- Clement LO, 11:55:19 04/13/05 Wed Re: 俄利根：上帝、宇宙和人 -- Clement LO, 11:57:09 04/13/05 Wed Re: Multiple Ages, Metempsychosis, and the Restoration of All -- Clement LO, 12:02:00 04/13/05 Wed Re: Multiple Ages, Metempsychosis, and the Restoration of All -- 蒲生, 17:28:38 04/13/05 Wed Re: Multiple Ages, Metempsychosis, and the Restoration of All -- 維記, 17:36:29 04/13/05 Wed 輪迴與聖經; near-death experience -- Liberal, 11:07:14 04/19/05 Tue