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Subject: Re: Paul vs Jesus

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Fung_Chi_Wood

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Date Posted: 23:04:06 05/08/04 Sat
In reply to: XOX 's message, "Re: Paul vs Jesus" on 16:23:01 05/07/04 Fri

I have given a talk on Paul vs Jesus in one of the meetings of Mt. Olives. I would like to share about this in future in our meetings. I feel there is a strong connection between Pauline teaching and fundamentalism.

>Sharing of interesting information regarding rel=nofollow target=_blank >href=http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/>Jesus vs
>Paul - Introduction
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>A problem involved stems from our tendency to evaluate
>ourselves in terms of absolutes. We see ourselves as
>either good or evil and therefore deserving either all
>of heaven or all of hell. We seem to have missed the
>fact that man was given the capacity to grow in favor
>with God. Where a person might stand in favor with
>God could be seen as a scale from 0-10 (10 being
>ultimate favor with God, and 0, no favor). Today, the
>very best of individuals in either Christianity or
>Judaism I would rate at 2. On the other hand, someone
>like the prophet Daniel I'd rate around 8+, Moses and
>Elijah 9, and Yeshua 10. But a favor rating of 2 can
>appear very impressive in a world with a general level
>that is below 0, especially if 2 is the best the
>current generation has seen. It is far easier to pat
>ourselves on the back for what we are not, as opposed
>to turning around and facing the fact that we are
>still nothing near what we could and should be.
>
>Jewish and Christian doctrine has responded by
>sedating its followers from the pain of this reality
>with a concept of the sovereignty of God borrowed from
>Greek (Hellenistic) philosophy. In short, it suggests
>that we are who, and what we are because God has
>for-ordained it to be so. In effect, this puts the
>blame for our pathetic condition back on God. At the
>same time this ultra-sovereign picture of God allows
>man to see himself as the best there is. This always
>leads to a sense of pride in one's destiny.
>
>The next logical step when one sees themselves this
>way is to adopt an 'it's our way or go to hell'
>attitude. This bigoted posturing has become
>particularly repulsive to me. It is rampant...
>understood, but not always spoken, in most factions of
>Christianity and some Jewish sects. The self-serving
>aspects of this fear mongering doctrine should be
>evident. It is psychological extortion. No one has
>cornered the market on eternal life. The truth happens
>to be one of the good news/bad news scenarios.
>Eternal life in a better place is relatively easy to
>obtain. It is the Kingdom of God that is much more
>difficult to enter, and there is a difference!
>
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>"This bigoted posturing has become particularly
>repulsive to me."
>
>Me too!

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